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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:30:21 JST prettygood
Boost this post if you typed `sudo reboot` or otherwise accidentally bounced a production machine today. - Johnny Peligro likes this.
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:31:17 JST pwm
@prettygood always alias reboot to /bin/false -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:31:54 JST prettygood
@pwm its been a long time since I did the wrongful on a production machine but I own my failures, even if I keep making them. -
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:32:26 JST pwm
@prettygood wrongful ass termination letter to follow prettygood and Phantasm like this. -
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:33:48 JST pwm
@adiz @prettygood If it's the only one, prod is down until it comes back up.
Physical enterprise servers can take minutes to POST -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:33:49 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@prettygood @pwm What's wrong with rebooting a machine?
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:34:03 JST prettygood
@pwm my actual face if they want to fire me for a mistake. pwm likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:34:58 JST prettygood
@adiz @pwm its a production machine, I can reboot it but like it would involve at least warning someone. I am a pro-reboot type, my own personal servers get a monthly reboot because if shit goes wrong I want to be on-deck when it happens. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:37:49 JST prettygood
@adiz @pwm alright that's wild but whatever works dog. pwm likes this.pwm repeated this. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:37:50 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@prettygood
> my own personal servers get a monthly rebootThose are rookie numbers. My personal machines reboot nightly. @pwm
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:38:02 JST pwm
@adiz @prettygood I don't reboot unless I update the kernel (when I remember (every six months (sometimes I forget))) Phantasm likes this. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:39:26 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@prettygood I sleep every night. My machines should get a nap along with me. @pwm
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:42:17 JST jae
@pwm @prettygood i circuit braked prod cluster. but its part of chaos experiment. will prod tipover to the other region.
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:42:43 JST pwm
@jae @prettygood when you are your own boss, you can completely ignore the consequences of your own mistakes prettygood likes this. -
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:46:30 JST jae
@pwm @prettygood this was at work.. pwm likes this. -
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:46:41 JST pwm
@jae @prettygood You're the ceo, remember? -
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 02:57:37 JST jae
@pwm @prettygood never forget the ceo. however i do have moonlighting job as security honcho where i rock the clusters for funsies pwm likes this. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:01:04 JST Johnny Peligro
@prettygood no, but i reinstalled nixos prettygood likes this. -
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pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:01:04 JST pwm
@adiz @jae @prettygood I think that's a rather unscientific way to look at that. Computers are not magic, and should not be reasoned about with magical thinking. Cause and effect, computers do exactly what they are told. T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll: repeated this. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:01:06 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@jae Reset the system/services, clear memory, in my mind keeps the system "healthy" having a clean boot daily. Many problems I've faced in the past have been cleared with a reboot, or were, rather, otherwise, directly or by proxy, the result of the system never getting a reboot. Maybe I should move to weekly reboots as well. 🤷 @pwm @prettygood
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:01:08 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@jae Why not? @pwm @prettygood
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:01:08 JST jae
Why not?
this feels like a redirect to avoid answering a question.
but okay.
if by chance there’s a memory leak, hard to trace when you’re often rebooting
if by chance you have a service hanging that won’t exit properly it can potentially cause problems if writing to data source/filesystem
if running dbase and transactions are not committed. it’s a problem
rebooting clears cache layer of the system, takes a while to rebuild
stability is hallmark of linux/bsd systems, take advantage
so why do you reboot nightly?
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:01:10 JST jae
@adiz @prettygood @pwm why -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:05:32 JST Phantasm
@adiz @pwm @jae @prettygood I had a NetBSD box designed to do exactly one thing running for years without reboots and I had servers that refused to POST/boot again after a reboot due to a hardware failure. Generally I don't bother rebooting unless there was a kernel/glibc update applied which (usually) is the only case on Linux/BSD systems where a full reboot is needed to fully apply an update. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:09:30 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@jae I guess I've just always grown up with the mentality of teaching that turning off a computer when not in use/rebooting a machine is "good". I will regularly shut down my laptop before extended periods of disuse, or reboot it periodically (like after updates, or moving between OS partitions). @pwm @prettygood
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:09:31 JST jae
@adiz @pwm @prettygood
> healthy
kernel, parent-pids, and some systemd/init services take care of this for you.
if reboots clear an issue, you lost value of debug / live system condition information to debug things.
it's not a service you're giving to yourself, but whatever works for you. -
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:11:04 JST jae
@phnt @adiz @prettygood @pwm
> NetBSD
sexy... bsd gets the ladies!
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Wrest (wrest@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:13:30 JST Wrest
@prettygood don't think I've ever accidentally rebooted prod before, but I did once accidentally delete the main internet static route on a firewall prettygood and pwm like this. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:17:03 JST Phantasm
@jae @pwm @adiz @prettygood
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jae (jae@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:33:32 JST jae
@phnt @adiz @prettygood @pwm so beautiful. so amazing. bsd is such a great system! Phantasm likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:34:21 JST prettygood
@pwm @jae @adiz >computers are not magic
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 03:35:22 JST prettygood
@Wrest that's worse, somehow. You can't search for help if you need it! -
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Mr. Big John :vepi: (johnhattan@dobbs.town)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 04:45:29 JST Mr. Big John :vepi:
@phnt @pwm @jae @adiz @prettygood nice racks.
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DefaultFallBackMood (kirby@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 04:45:34 JST DefaultFallBackMood
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:gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 04:50:19 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
@prettygood @pwm @jae @adiz
> This book is dedicated, in respect and admiration, to the spirit that lives in the computer.prettygood likes this. -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Friday, 04-Apr-2025 04:55:28 JST prettygood
@bonifartius @pwm @jae @adiz