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   Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:28:09 JST Seasons of Jason

   Finally! Mozilla Thunderbird challenges Gmail with its own email service.
   And that's just the beginning...
   https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2025/04/01/finally-mozilla-thunderbird-takes-on-gmail-with-new-email-service/

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     Bob Collins (bobcollins@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:37:40 JST Bob Collins

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     @killyourfm

     My first worry: will this be a distraction from the maintenance and enhancement of the core Thunderbird product.

     Asking as a long-suffering Firefox user.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:37:40 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Bob Collins

     @BobCollins It's a valid concern, but I would definitely direct that at the @thunderbird team. What I would offer is that the team has grown significantly, and I seriously doubt these services are being developed at the expense of Thunderbird proper.

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     Urzl (gooba42@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:44:00 JST Urzl

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     @killyourfm Mozilla's AI is still hungry, it needs new user data to ingest after Librewolf started eating their lunches.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:44:00 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Urzl
     • Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅

     @gooba42 I'll pass this one to @ryanleesipes.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:48:16 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Kerfuffle

     @kerfuffle Hello Firefox user 🤣

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     Kerfuffle (kerfuffle@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 01:48:17 JST Kerfuffle

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     @killyourfm
     Can't read the page; it crashes if you scroll down.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 02:06:41 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Kerfuffle
     • Alex

     @herrorange @kerfuffle Thank you for this.

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     Alex (herrorange@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 02:06:42 JST Alex

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     • Kerfuffle

     @killyourfm @kerfuffle there you go

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     Hervé Renault (herverenault@framapiaf.org)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 02:45:36 JST Hervé Renault

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     @killyourfm very interesting 👍️ if not an april fools (this article https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T437cd854afcb1395/thundermail-and-thunderbird-pro-services has been published 4 days ago, so I've come to the conclusion that it's real 😅)

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     Mago27 🇪🇺🇨🇵🇺🇦🐧 (zelfir@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 02:57:41 JST Mago27 🇪🇺🇨🇵🇺🇦🐧

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     @killyourfm Hopefully, it's not an April joke.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 02:57:41 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Mago27 🇪🇺🇨🇵🇺🇦🐧

     @Zelfir It's not. As you may know, I used to work for Thunderbird. I knew about this a year ago, but Ryan Sipes finally talked about it on a Thunderbird mailing list 4 days ago.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:22:22 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Kiloku

     @Kiloku Thunderbird is developed by MZLA Technologies Corporation, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation. (Which is mentioned in the article)

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     Kiloku (kiloku@burnthis.town)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:22:23 JST Kiloku

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     @killyourfm Isn't Thunderbird no longer related to Mozilla?

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:23:18 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Kiloku

     @Kiloku But yea, it's kind of a confusing relationship!

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:39:04 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • David Peach

     @david Mozilla Corporation does. MZLA is its own entity, a subsidiary of Mozilla Foundation. To date, all of Thunderbird/MZLA's revenue comes from donations. (Which is all mentioned in the article...)

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     David Peach (david@mastodon.davidpeach.co.uk)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:39:15 JST David Peach

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     @killyourfm they do get most of their money from G__gle. So I wouldn't hold my breath just yet.

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:45:58 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • David Peach

     @david It's actually a really common misconception, no worries. The relationship between Mozilla and Thunderbird got really confusing around 2021.

     And frankly, Mozilla's recent actions aren't exactly helping instill faith in associated productions like Thunderbird (even if Thunderbird doesn't deserve any of that fallout)

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     David Peach (david@mastodon.davidpeach.co.uk)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 03:46:09 JST David Peach

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     @killyourfm fair enough. I did not read it I admit. Maybe I should read things before commenting. 😅. Apologies. :)

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     Seasons of Jason (killyourfm@layer8.space)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 04:22:30 JST Seasons of Jason

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     • Martin Seeger
     • Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅
     • Koos Pol 🇺🇦

     @ryanleesipes @KoosPol @masek That is fantastic news.

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     Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅 (ryanleesipes@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 04:22:31 JST Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅

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     • Koos Pol 🇺🇦

     @KoosPol @masek @killyourfm we are going to be using servers in Europe, likely Germany.

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     Koos Pol 🇺🇦 (koospol@mastodon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 04:22:34 JST Koos Pol 🇺🇦

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     • Martin Seeger
     • Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅

     @masek @killyourfm @ryanleesipes For USA folk it's probably less of an issue, as they're already forcefully committed to the dark side. But then the question becomes what Thundermail has to offer for those without escape: GMail and Outlook already have a compelling package.
     For EU folk it could be a game changer. If, *IF* there's enough value. As a recurring TB donor I'm definitely not paying to have my email stored on US soil.

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     Martin Seeger (masek@infosec.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 04:22:35 JST Martin Seeger

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     @killyourfm If under U.S. law it should be avoided at the moment …

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     Koos Pol 🇺🇦 (koospol@mastodon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Apr-2025 04:22:35 JST Koos Pol 🇺🇦

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     • Martin Seeger
     • Ryan Lee Sipes ⚡🦅

     @masek @killyourfm @ryanleesipes That would be a real concern for me as well.