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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 22:32:18 JST iced depresso
sure its much easier to manage things when you don't have freedom of expression as a constitutional right, and especially when you aren't bothered by things like actually being a representative democracy.
when you're at the point of opining banning your opposition (Germany), cancelling elections after losing them (Romania), or dissolving parliament because you are about to (France), it's not really that big of a step to complain that somebody can afford to buy more stickers for candidate you don't like than you can.
in fact you can even just skip the pretense and go directly back to being a monarchy, which would save on european hypocricy and a lot of bookkeeping in general :blabcat:-
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 22:34:15 JST iced depresso
i say this as someone who doesn't like PACs and would rather we stopped them but the argument why they are legal actually makes some amount of legal sense (rich people are allowed to have opinions and buy ads, same as poor people, its just poors can't afford to actually do it.)
there is an argument to be made to flex the free speech bits a little, though that itself is hazardous to futz with.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 22:43:43 JST iced depresso
@alyx wasn't there some cope about russians buying ads in romania -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 22:43:44 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn For Romania you can also add banning people from running as candidates in an election. It's not as bad as banning an entire political party like Germany is thinking about, but we're trying our best. (by the way, the reason we had 2 candidates banned from participating is basically that they criticized EU and NATO, and maybe vaguely insinuated the possibility of leaving these alliances).
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:01:19 JST iced depresso
@alyx i wonder how much longer europe can keep straight facing that they are not just monarchic fascists while basically doing everything that popper asked people not to do as an open society -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:01:20 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn So the latest in the story is that a local TikTok influencer, named Bogdan Peșchir, spent almost $1 million on bribing people (through 265 intermediates) to buy votes for the now banned candidate Călin Georgescu. I guess the insinuation is that the money he was spreading around might have come from Russia, but so far I haven't seen it proven. But we do know that another ally of Georgescu was contacting a Russian military official, so we might end up with something eventually.
That being said, while there are some serious crimes here, and lots of people are gonna end up in jail, based on the evidence we have so far, it's still hard to argue that the fraud was the decisive factor in getting Georgescu beyond the 1st round of presidential elections. Or in other words, cancelling the elections hasn't been justified yet, imo.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:03:36 JST iced depresso
@alyx i don't think trump/vance are particularly open society folk either though. -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:03:37 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn Until a Trump or Vance lead USA decides to step in and conquer us.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:06:22 JST iced depresso
@alyx i kind of dodged an argument where someone was complaining about Rand and its like ok but rand became such a weirdo through basically
- arguing out of the frustration of business owners, and,
- supporting that model of capitalism because voluntary mercantalism is one of the only ways to do business when the use of force is off the table
i see a lot of people specifically not understand this second point and just hate on rand because "she likes being selfish" and its like ok she wrote a book about that, but sometimes weird and unliked shit is a direct product of something else we did like.
i noticed its very common for people to want to seek direct and unsubtle solutions to perceived problems (thus the joke about the systems analyst coming behind and telling you that you can choose 1-1000 but not 7, because 7 is forbidden for no particular reason) -
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:06:54 JST iced depresso
@alyx i would rather eject everything to do with abraham in to space :cat_sad: -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:06:55 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn No, but we can always hope that they won't stop at Greenland, and will MAGA straight to Europe. Add another 27 states to the glorious USA.
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:21:05 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn Wouldn't that be more the Middle East?
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:21:05 JST iced depresso
@alyx judaism, islam and christianity are all faces of the same cancer, its just christianity is the least crappy edition of it
early christians overlapped with stoics a bit but they still screwed it up (and then screwed it utterly to hell by creating the catholic church.) -
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:26:10 JST iced depresso
@alyx were basically run by a christofascist regime in the USA right now. (though its debatable, i doubt jesus would recognize them.) -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:26:11 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn Still, Christianity wasn't born in Europe, and at least Western Europe is actually far less Christian today than US. Eastern Europe IS more Christian than US, but across the EU, we probably average out somewhere at American levels. Though, at least in my country, we're less fanatical than those mega churches over there.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:31:52 JST iced depresso
@alyx i saw some incredibly bizzare shit where someone was trying to make an argument that jesus was a witch and the miracles were just regular human magic. i kind of shrugged because i don't take these things seriously.
re-reading about stoics and epicurians and there was some discussion that before the catholic church happened the early sects shared a lot of values with the stoics.
still, he did travel in witchy sized covens and taught people to do cannibalism rituals.
gnostics basically said nothing outside the material plane is your friend out there. abraham asked for and demands incredibly fucked up shit over the stories. stoics basically say no matter what happens outside they can't get in your head without your permission and once you realize you are not the voices you can start projecting willpower on to other people (and they did so, up to the point of basically delaying the entire collapse of the classical empire)
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:34:34 JST iced depresso
@alyx i most certainly am not one of those :ablobcat3dverified: -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:34:36 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn I forgot who I heard that was speculating that Trump was an atheist. It was some recognizable atheist figure, but I forgot who. Maybe the atheist community is starting to cope too. I remember when people were confidently saying that Obama was one too.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:40:46 JST iced depresso
@alyx tribalism? -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:40:47 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn I know. But I wonder why some people need this in their life. Are they trying to validate the atheist movement or what? Like the obsession with trying to get Jordan Peterson to say he doesn't ACTUALLY believe in a god the way the Pope does. Who gives a shit?
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:44:28 JST iced depresso
@alyx idk i do still like the stoics though. i think its one of the only spiritual suicide religions that actually comes out the other side of things
hindus see gods and are like oh if i play by the rules i can get promoted someday
christians see gods and hiss because only THEIR patron gets to torture them every day for no reason
buddhists are like if i sit and don't think for long enough they'll forget i exist
stoics saw gods and were like
:cirno_heh: do things for me
:blobcatovo: nyo
:cirno_stare: going to punish you until you do
:neocat_gun: bring it bitch
:cirno_for_reals: we're actually doing this
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:54:10 JST iced depresso
@alyx the high elves hated talos because he was a human ascendent -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:54:12 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn Look, clearly Talos is the one true god, and Elves are heretics we need to conquer.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 23:55:58 JST iced depresso
@alyx mer are basically star-stuff that was imprisoned on nirn gnostic style, where man is basically dust born on nirn. talos was basically a human mage that said fuck it we're doing it live and escaped.
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iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Apr-2025 00:01:03 JST iced depresso
@alyx the aedra are all basically dead. i forget the specifics but they are basically all corpses running at 1% capacity.
except the daedra who didn't commit cosmic suicide. though there is a limited totality of daedra star-stuff, so they are unable to ever grow in numbers. -
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Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀 (alyx@gameliberty.club)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Apr-2025 00:01:04 JST Alyx Hinata 🇹🇩🚫:unverified:💀
@icedquinn Yes, but they also wanted to undo Mundus. Don't know how well you know the lore, but human or not, Talos was the embodiment of Lorkhan (kinda like how Christ is God in Christianity). And since in TES, gods gain power and exist based on people worshiping them, if you stop the worship, the god ceases to exist. And since Lorkhan is basically the creator of Mundus, getting rid of Talos/Lorkhan allows you to undo the world.
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