@Tony me on occasion, anything still supported by Microsoft but is not the center of attention is somewhat handleable, it's like tanking through food you don't like
Linux works if you're not trying to substitute windows. Windows is like a Toyota camary. Linux is a pile of parts that can be build into a tank. Stick with a simple windows manager like i3 and learn to use dmenu and pulseaudio, and you'll fine. The further you get into other DEs, the more you're rely on random developers and commits to get things working, and they're not always moving in the same direction. This results in all sorts of fuckery.
Also stick with what's stable, e.g. x11, alsa or pulse, etc. The problem is that a lot of DEs are pushing wayland and pipewire, which aren't mature, and then wondering why people don't want to use Linux.
I dunno. I run my whole business from linux. I can do stuff in bash that most people can't do in other languages. I have scripts that produce everything from initial estate plan drafts, to invoicing, including generating invoices, printing them, generating and printing envelopes, preparing and sending billing emails, and entering the invoicing into my books, etc. Invoicing takes me about a half an hour a month compared to them 10 quickbooks took.
Like I said, linux isn't windows. My user experience is that windows is shit. All options have been decided — is there a button for that?
In linux on the other hand, between sed, awk, grep and other *nix tools, plus bash and regex, I can do just about anything using tools that were invented before I was born.
I even use scripts to fill in court pdfs using pdftk. Windows nigger Attorney pay thousands a year for programs to do just that. Retards.
Funny story. My nephew was at my house and I locked my desktop. My lock is a script that does a few things. 1. It changes the background on all monitors every minute. 2. It opens a terminal on a new desktop on each monitor and cats ascii are files to each monitor at a rate of one line every half second. He kept asking me "what program are you using for your screen saver." I just smiled and nodded. I guess some people just think differently about what a computer is.
See there's a problem, and it's that many people think that programs have to do everything — I want a screen saver program that does that (20 lines of bash vs. A "program"). This is a windows user mentality. No... a program should do one thing and one thing only. Scripting does the rest.
@Humpleupagus@Tony@nyanide I started on windows 3.1 and had to learn DOS so I could launch games, and have spent over 30 years on it. Linux is great for deploying code to (especially having had to work on Windows Server for clients) - but kinda shit at being used, especially if you are used to Windows.
In fact, despite MS fucking up Windows with every other release, even its bad versions are easier to use than supposedly "easy" linux distros like Ubuntu.
And that is because linux users hate the idea of a user experience and still can't grasp the idea that programs should require compilation to work, or that there shouldn't be dozens of incompatible basic utils for everything. Linux is ruined by communist people who use Vim and release their code under copyleft.
Nvim is superior, plus, plugins can help avoid those problems. Barbar alone will let you know if you have multiple buffers open, because it will make tabs. Chadtree is cool too for browsing files from nvim, so you can open files in new buffers from a browser and use the standard buffer to cut and paste between buffers without having to use xclip ("+yy).
Ranger is another to die for tool. Nothing compares. I modified the rc so that I can open files on specific desktops (using nohup, so the opened process isn't a child process of ranger — so I can close ranger if needed). Shift+O+<nu > uses mime, shift+E+<num> uses nvim. I can also compile pdfs directly from ranger and send files to my phone. Plus ranger itself can have buffers, alt+<number> opens a new buffer and files can be copied and pasted between them. And since ranger runs in terminal, you can have multiple terminal buffers too.
Linux isn't a joke is you know how to use it. It's a beast. Plus, it makes my wife wet when I get shit done. 😏
idk, vim drives me nuts. I accidently hit something and lock myself out all the time or accidently make multiple files of the same thing because I hit q twice or something 😂
I should add that I use nvim all day though, so I'm use to it. Except for collaborative documents, I draft and typeset everything in nvim, from letters to contracts, etc.
I've got fucking Windows Vista on another old PC and no more support for that. You can find copies of the old files for fixes if you know where to look. There are archives of that available.
@MadrePappagallo@Tony@KingOfWhiteAmerica gnutards are right though a more free environment gives you some more control, fuck in chinux you could erase the kernel and reboot and now you don't have an operating system. I like being able to do that with ease. With windows it would try to stop you.
@kybermace@Humpleupagus@Tony@nyanide I am used to the "a" key typing an "a" - hell, it seems like the key binding were made by the same angband folks who decided drink a potion would be "q" to "quaff"
@brigrammer@Tony@Humpleupagus@kybermace It is the descendant of ed, a modal editor. VI is naturally a modal editor. I do not understand where you are coming from here.
@nyanide@Tony@Humpleupagus@kybermace when I type this comment, the letters go into the comment. to move I use arrows, to do other things I press control or shift. this is how every text entry, including DOS, I ever used works
but VI is somehow better because it was invented for use on punch cards and vacuum tubes - I just don't see the appeal of not just typing and using the abundant modifier keys and arrows to move about (and occasionally even the mouse)
@brigrammer@Tony@Humpleupagus@kybermace Vi just happens to have keybinds and older concepts that some people like for whatever reason. Plan 9 tried to move away from all of that but obviously I'm not running Plan 9 Fifty fourth edition.
Am I speaking to Xah Lee? This is stuff that only he's ever argued.
The one cool feature that acme has is being able to type and then click on commands. That's superior to having to locate a command in 8 different menus, each with a litany of options and subcommands.
But I like notepads syntax coloring and bright white background. It sure looks better than my transparent terminal with pastel colors and wicked backgrounds.
@Humpleupagus@Tony@brigrammer@kybermace Isn't Brigrammer arguing against the modal model with a bunch of keybinds? Acme and sam obviously don't have that it just lets you manipulate text buffers at ease. Being able to use standard shell commands inside acme to manipulate the text buffer you want is quite nice.
@WilhelmIII@Tony@Humpleupagus@nyanide@kybermace I love vanilla notepad for when I will only be opening/writing a file for a few seconds and don't want the file to be "in my radar" in the other text editors I use and frequently spin it up to kick out a line or two batch file to dump in a folder to kick some stupid java thing off
@nyanide@Humpleupagus@Tony@kybermace I don't know the name of what I arguing I don't like (wouldn't say against, just that I am not learning it at this point)
I like the keyboard to, without modifiers, spit out text of the key pressed, and do extra stuff with the shift, control, and alt keys
It depends on what needs editing. If I have 57 files that need the same thing changed in each, opening them all is ridiculous. Grep and sed are way more efficient.
> You are against modifier keys, except shift, alt, and ctrl.
> You script.
I'm not following what exactly your issue is except maybe that you don't like to have more options, which is what I originally stated was the mentality of a windows user. The need the limitation for some reason.
I want to add that I too grew up using Dos and windows. I had an AT&T 8086 and later a 486dx2/66 with a sound blaster and a USR 14.4k modem. I ran windows Chicago beta on that machine. I just found windows extremely limiting, and moved on.