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Mozilla doesn’t need to build any AI things.
All Mozilla needs to do is: make a web browser that is standards compliant and does not adopt any of the nonsense that for-profit companies are doing to try and destroy the web.
Mozilla doesn’t need to run a VPN service, data broker service or anything else.
I just want my money to donate to the development of the browser.
No AI stuff. No cryptocurrency donations. https://hachyderm.io/@joeyh/114078238284059938
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No proprietary plugins. No DRM.
Firefox shouldn’t even have a EULA. Mozilla should be collecting ZERO information from the browser that they cannot collect from httpd logs.
To quote Mozilla co-founder @jwz
“In my humble but correct opinion, Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:
1. Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
2. Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
There is no 3.”
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Go read https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/10/mozillas-ceo-doubles-down-on-them-being-an-advertising-company-now/ and all the linked posts on there.
riotRhino
@mattl is there a web browser that does not suck?
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@riotRhino Firefox, Safari, Chromium are the three browsers I have open all the time. They all have their good and bad qualities.
Rachel Greenham
@mattl @Dianora @joeyh i wonder sometimes if it might be better if they actually just *sold* it. I don’t mean, to some other organisation, i mean, as a product to end users. Pay a license and get it guaranteed without any of that invasive shit.
I mean, I pay for ivory here, i pay for mimestream, i pay for dash (doc browser), I used to pay for other stuff but i stopped using them. i use firefox way more than any of them…
and it's always open source. you can build it yourself, but most won’t.
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@StrangeNoises @Dianora @joeyh I’d be happy to pay for it. I’d also be happy to give Mozilla $10 a month if the money was spent on Firefox and not on all the other crap they keep coming up with.
Do they still get a ton of money from Google?
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@WomanCorn I use Safari and Firefox, but I also use Little Snitch on my Mac to block endpoints I don't like the sound of.
Corn Woman 🌽
Is there a clean functioning browser that isn't full of service endpoints?
feld
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@feld LadyBird is a way off being something you can recommend to the average person as far as I can tell.
feld
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@feld Yeah, I wouldn't want a bunch of bug reports from something like that yet either.
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@stinerman @riotRhino yep or it’s niche.
As someone else said LadyBird is an engine from scratch. Which is at least somewhat positive but I don’t know enough about the project. Some issue was hinted at earlier.
Nathan A. Stine
@mattl @riotRhino these are really the only 3 browsers. Nearly everything else is a derivative.
You probably know this but I'm giving everyone else the info.
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This is such a bad look:
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@strypey I hope they do but doing it without the $400 million a year from Google it’ll be hard.
I wish there was a free cross platform browser based on WebKit.
Strypey
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@mattl
> I just want my money to donate to the development of the browser
Then you need to find someone other than Mozilla to give it to. Mitchell Baker and her cronies have turned it into their personal ATM, and sadly I think it's probably stuffed beyond recovery.
I suspect those in the Mozilla community who support the original vision need to do the same thing the OpenOffice community did. When they created the Document Foundation and forked OO to create LibreOffice.
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@strypey I would love to see it happen. If you hear of anything like this please let me know.
It’s been a while since I compiled Firefox. It’s been almost 20 years since I was compiling what became GNU Icecat and trying to coordinate stuff from the UK with the FSF in Boston and a volunteer in India.
Strypey
@mattl
> doing it without the $400 million a year from Google it’ll be hard
Yes, it will. But figuring out how to make a rights-respecting reference browser, *without* DataFarm money, is something the software freedom community has needed to do for a long time.
That money isn't coming back, and that's a good thing. Accepting it was the poison chalice that got Mozilla into its current position. Most of it was spent on admin and bullshit pivots anyway, not software development.
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@strypey mostly I put myself as a human shield between the volunteer and the FSF because quelle surprise an individual with a 3 letter name was insufferable to the volunteer who was doing great work and didn’t need a bunch of bullshit from that person.
Naming no names.
Strypey
@mattl
> If you hear of anything like this please let me know
Same, same.
> I was compiling what became GNU Icecat and trying to coordinate stuff from the UK with the FSF in Boston and a volunteer in India
Kudos for your pioneering work. Intriguing that you mention an Indian volunteer. I suspect that the energy needed to refresh grassroots Free Code development will come more from east than west. I really want to go to FOSSASIA and talk to some people about this.
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“Mozilla Foundation works with a broad movement of people, projects, and organizations to protect & improve the Internet as a public resource. We strive to keep the internet open and accessible to all, and to promote more trustworthy tools”
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@krn yep
Kirk Northrop
@mattl TBH I’d rather they made it a subscription and laid off all the shit. I’m sure a large percentage of Firefox users would pay £5 a month.
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So glad to have left a comment on Mozilla’s website and have woken up to this in my email.
Approximately one every 5-7 minutes since around 5am EST.
Luckily I don’t see them unless I go looking for them but still… ugh.
Ryan Finnie
@mattl Congratulations on earning the Termite King's blessing, at the very least.
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@kris I don't believe so, but I also don't understand how $400 million a year works.
kris
@mattl have they ever shared how much it costs to maintain the browser? it seems the majority of significantly sized web projects ultimately end up in advertising because they struggle to grow income otherwise?
the piece I feel fuzzy on is whether or not the advertising is a necessary step to keep the lights on, or if it's the outcome of "line must go up infinitely"
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