I agree this is very true, but I think this fact alone just gives me more reason to keep watching it.
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 01:00:13 JST SuperDicq
- Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:, Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:, snacks and hor32 like this.
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 02:53:29 JST SuperDicq
@kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org It's also more like. The more you increase the complexity of your design, the more things can fail.
Battlebots is a durability competition. If you keep your design simple you have the advantage because less things can break and you can spend all your time making the few components that you do have to be more durable.
Of course insane crazy robots need a place too. The show wouldn't be fun to watch if everyone made the exact same wedgebot. -
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Kerosene ~suya~ CEO of DarkFedi (kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 02:53:30 JST Kerosene ~suya~ CEO of DarkFedi
@SuperDicq We found the crab equivalent for robots. Literally perfect shape. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 02:57:02 JST SuperDicq
@kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org It would turn into Formula 1 where everything is over-regulated and engineers have no space to innovate new wacky ideas at all. Every team uses practically the same car with very minor differences.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:20:55 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @kerosene One of the reasons Formula 1 is sucky is due to how all vehicles are required to use proprietary ECU software from microsoft. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:23:15 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org I mean honestly I kinda want to see Formula 1 without any engineering constraints like engines, control units, tires, dimensions, aero, etc.
I really want to see what kind of awesome cars they can come up with if they were unrestricted by regulations. I'm sure this will make racing much more entertaining. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:24:26 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org But that would mean that the competition would be more about the engineers than the drivers. And unfortunately most people watch racing like sportsball and just want it be about the drivers instead.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:48:56 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @kerosene Even if a team has the best vehicle, with 9001 kW power, whether that vehicle wins the race depends on the driver. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 19:55:49 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org What I actually really want to see is a fully unrestricted racing series where you are allowed to do anything like mount weapons to your car or ram people off the track.
Basically BattleBots + Formula 1.
Of course the cars would have to be remote controlled tho.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:01:32 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @kerosene >Of course the cars would have to be remote controlled tho.
You wouldn't compete in GNU/Tank? -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:08:22 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org No, I wouldn't because unfortunately real life isn't anything like Girls und Panzer where the Panzerkraft League has magic sanctioned ammunition and equipment that somehow never kills humans but only disables vehicles.
I'd assume this sport would be very lethal, because it's basically just like real life warfare so I'd probably not join. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:13:03 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org Also a real life panzerkraft sport would be full of a bunch of history LARPING weirdos and not cute girls like anime at all.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:13:18 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @kerosene The GNU/Armor doesn't permit proprietary projectiles past, thus it's not lethal for you. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:13:58 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org Unfortunately magic armor and projectiles doesn't exist.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:41:05 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @kerosene Memes aside, any decent steel grade from the past 80 years forged reasonably thick into tank armor is pretty much impregnable by small or medium arms fire and the heaviest vehicle wins, thus you'll be quite safe against whatever is mounted in competing cars (as it's not like the other competitors would have HEAT weapons or anti-tank missiles or DU rounds). -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:42:56 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org The heaviest vehicle doesn't win if the competition is a race. You'll have to make a well balanced decision between speed and durability.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:44:00 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @kerosene The heaviest vehicle can win a race just fine as long as it can crush all other competitors flat. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:51:12 JST SuperDicq
@thatbrickster@shitposter.world @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org I do like the sound V10 engines much more than these hybrids.
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Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:51:13 JST Bricky
@SuperDicq V10s may be coming back. Burn synthetic fuels, not MGU-Ks.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 20:53:02 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @thatbrickster @kerosene V10 hybrid? -
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Bricky (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:00:39 JST Bricky
@SuperDicq Same.
Sorry Earth, I need my screaming open-wheel racing itch scratched.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:00:39 JST 翠星石
@thatbrickster @kerosene @SuperDicq The Earth doesn't care about the emissions about a single V10 with a catholic convertor.
It cares about millions or billions of them. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:09:53 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org I agree. The whole push to make cars in motorsport be more eco-friendly is completely misguided.
Motorsport vehicles are usually only produced in very small amounts (usually just enough units for homologation and to last the racing season) and these vehicles have a very short operating time (only a few hours per week at most).
Making them "greener" does not change anything.
I definitely agree that vehicles that are produced in high amounts and operated for long hours (like your average road car and truck) should be made as energy efficient as possible. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:18:17 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @thatbrickster @kerosene Even the emissions are nothing compared to all the people driving to see the race.
There are tradeoffs - you can go for higher fuel efficiency, but worse noxious emissions (slightly lean), or less noxious emissions but more fuel burn (slightly rich), but I'm not aware of any car where it's easy to adjust the engine configuration to improve the emissions.
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:20:07 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org The best thing for the environment obviously would be not to race at all, as it a recreational activity not necessary for the survival of the human species.
But nobody wants to live life like that. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:22:06 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @thatbrickster @kerosene You can play free racing simulators with free software on GNU instead as well. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:33:01 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org As someone who is both into racing real cars and racing simulators I still want to add that nothing is quite like racing a real car.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 21:39:27 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @thatbrickster @kerosene It's better in some ways, as you can drive the car into a brick wall as hard as you like and and nothing happens. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:01:57 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org Yes but you're also missing the adrenaline rush of nearly dying for real.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:10:23 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @thatbrickster @kerosene You get that on any wet road while cornering.
You're not missing much. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:11:21 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org As much as I enjoy pulling handbrake turns on wet roads it's not the same kind of experience of an actual racetrack, sorry.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:12:54 JST 翠星石
@SuperDicq @thatbrickster @kerosene You don't even need the handbrake to start sliding if you don't have traction control. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:15:25 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org That is true, but I'm currently still driving my front wheel drive Ford Puma so handbrake pulls is the best I can do.
My Mazda MX5 needs an alignment and some other tiny fixes very badly before I can start driving it seriously again. This car is rear wheel drive so it can easily lose traction by giving it a lot of gas on a wet surface or clutch kicking. -
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SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2025 22:18:13 JST SuperDicq
@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @thatbrickster@shitposter.world @kerosene@fsebugoutzone.org And yes both cars have mechnical throttle control so no traction control or any other electric interference that stops you from having fun.