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   Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:18:49 JST Pissed Hippo
   Basically in the USA you are allowed to protest as long as your protest is assured to be ineffective. If your protest starts to matter, then police show up and beat you without fail, they don't even pretend like this is a free country at that point.
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     mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:19:59 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:

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     @sun Same in France. They don't care.
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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:23:43 JST John Fediverse

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     @sun Or if it's on behalf of a major political party, like the 2020 riots being a giant DNC rally
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     ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:24:34 JST ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡

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     It's the same in Canada. The sweet spot in terms of number of protesters seems to be about 50-100. If you have less than 50 people in the crowd then the police will beat you on account of being a public nuisance. If you have 50-100 people you're just big enough that it's too great a hassle for the cops to easily deal with. If you're more than 100 people, you're a threat and the city authorities will come down on you like an iron jack boot while the MSM all vilifies you in lockstep so the general public will excuse the authorities for doing so. Of course it depends on the cause too. If you're doing some kind of activism that the government condones du jour, then they might turn a blind eye, or even provide union and NGO funding, some photo ops with local politicians, and so on.
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     rehnynytes256@shota.house's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:27:28 JST RehnyNytes256

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     @sun@shitposter.world and they’ll throw you in prison for 20+ years if they really don’t like your protesting

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     :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw: (alex@boymilk.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:35:49 JST :trans_paw:⛧Alex⛧:trans_paw:

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     also in canada if you protest anything worth protesting, mainstream media will do everything in its power to frame you as violent revolutionaries or terrorists, regardless of how peaceful you are
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:36:06 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @Alex @toiletpaper it is depressing how absolutely complicit the news media is in this
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     John Fediverse (mrsaturday@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:37:40 JST John Fediverse

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     @sun @Alex @toiletpaper Remember how Stephen Colbert used his show to kill Occupy?
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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:39:06 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @sun @Alex @toiletpaper And a big part of it is that the entirety of the mainstream media is owned by rich people who "don't want the Poors to get any ideas." :blobfoxdisapprove:
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     Matt Hamilton (eriner@noauthority.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:39:32 JST Matt Hamilton

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     @sun the tree… she grows thirsty.

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     ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:40:00 JST ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡

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     Even if you're a sovereign unceded first nation who never had a treaty with "Canada Inc.", they will vilify you as terrorists and send the RCMP and private merc's to oust you from your own land.
     
     All while crying "Russian invasion!!" out the other side of their mouth.
     
     https://amnesty.ca/write-for-rights/wetsuweten/
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:44:24 JST anemone

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     @sun@shitposter.world they infiltrate them to try to keep them ineffective. Happened here at least one time that I know of.

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:45:05 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @anemone I personally believe that this happens a lot more often than people think
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     ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡ (toiletpaper@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:48:53 JST ⚡Lord of Misrule⚡

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     @sun @anemone
     
     Every so often they even get caught, but only fraction of the time when the protesters are vigilant enough and committed to non-violence.
     
     https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/undercover-cops-tried-to-incite-violence-in-montebello-union-leader-1.646775
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:49:13 JST anemone

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     @sun@shitposter.world i only know about that one because the people that hijacked a march were literal police informants

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:50:59 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @anemone which one specifically are you talking about?
     
     The most notable one to me was the 1999 WTO protests in Seattle, police infiltrators got caught.
     
     More recently I saw declassified video from the Jan 6 thing and, police were kettling protesters, there was a camera at a guarded door blocking people in, multiple people came up to the door and were pushed away but some of the protesters showed something to the door guards and were immediately let out lol
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:51:32 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @anemone @sun they do that here for sure. RCMP had a document leaked a couple years back of a bunch of groups they infiltrated and there were some that were local (one a student group where my brother works).
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:54:49 JST anemone

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     @jeffcliff@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world didn't that mass shooter a few years ago that was used as a pretext for trudeau gun ban list have weird gang and RCMP connections + was getting huge amounts of money directly from the post office?

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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:56:32 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @anemone @sun i missed the post office bit, but we have a surveillance agency (kinda like cia/nsa/whatever) inside of our post office --- it would be like if there was a branch of us postal service that was actually spies on part with the cia/fbi
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:57:18 JST anemone

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     @jeffcliff@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world yeah so presumably he was getting paid by them

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     Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem: (tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 09:58:53 JST Doughnut Lollipop 【記録係】:blobfoxgooglymlem:

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     @sun @anemone Speaking of those protests, I remember being told that I'd get in trouble if I said anything about them back when they were happening (I was in elementary school). :blobfox0_0:
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 10:01:23 JST anemone

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     @sun@shitposter.world this one didn’t make the news it was one that happened here in Portland back when I was still in some leftist orgs. Some random guy and his friends hijacked a blm march and the libs just went along with it because he was black.
     
     Anyway some of the leftist orgs figured out who was and he was a convicted child rapist who served no prison time and had some and was part of some community police outreach group?

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 10:16:48 JST feld

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     @mrsaturday @Alex @sun @toiletpaper his fake conservative comedy newscaster character killed Occupy? What?