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   Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:15:00 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

   In the Netherlands #Signal is at the top of app stores. Seems a critical mass has been reached and groups (families, communities of practice) are now willing to make the switch. Good!

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     Jiří Eischmann (sesivany@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:36:05 JST Jiří Eischmann

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     @jwildeboer it still makes me uneasy that it's a centralized service with servers located in the US. I'd very much prefer Matrix. But it's still much better than what most people use now, so yeah, a win.

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     Rafael Bonifaz (rbonifaz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:36:51 JST Rafael Bonifaz

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     @jwildeboer any reason for that?

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 01:07:08 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Dr. Seltsam 🌎🎶🌳
     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @hipsauerkraut Why do you think I am not already doing that since quite some time? @AboutSignalNL

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     Dr. Seltsam 🌎🎶🌳 (hipsauerkraut@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 01:07:09 JST Dr. Seltsam 🌎🎶🌳

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     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @jwildeboer @AboutSignalNL Make an afford and donate 5 bugs or whatever to Signal, they will need to upgrade their infrastructure.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 02:22:17 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Jari Pennanen

     @Ciantic Go to Settings -> Privacy -> Phone Number and switch both options to "Nobody". In all my years using Signal I have maybe gotten 3-5 spammy requests. The last one some 2-3 years ago.

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     Jari Pennanen (ciantic@twit.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 02:22:18 JST Jari Pennanen

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     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @jwildeboer @AboutSignalNL Can't support Signal until it allows to block all messages or contact requests from non-contacts.

     Telegram has a similar 'feature', it's worst feature an instant messenger can have, constant spam requests if your phone number is known.

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 03:11:29 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • Farshid Hakimy / فرشید
     • Jari Pennanen
     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @farshidhakimy then people could likely get unlimited cheap user IDs, because the requirement to have a phone number (costs money if blocked) would be gone.

     This is a hard problem.

     @Ciantic @jwildeboer @AboutSignalNL

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     Farshid Hakimy / فرشید (farshidhakimy@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 03:11:31 JST Farshid Hakimy / فرشید

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     • Jari Pennanen
     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @Ciantic @jwildeboer @AboutSignalNL You can just turn off the ability for people to find you via your phone number and share your username with people you want to be able to contact you.

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     Farshid Hakimy / فرشید (farshidhakimy@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 03:11:32 JST Farshid Hakimy / فرشید

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     • Jari Pennanen
     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @Ciantic @jwildeboer @AboutSignalNL
     There is no privacy friendly way for the server to block a chat request as it would need to know your contact list, who is making the chat request and whether this is their first message or not.
     And implementing this client side isn't user friendly as the other person wouldn't always immediately know whether they can start a chat with you or not because your phone could be offline.

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     Arne Babenhauserheide (arnebab@rollenspiel.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 03:12:15 JST Arne Babenhauserheide

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     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @jwildeboer That’s awesome!

     Here in Germany it may not yet be on that level, but I can already reach many friends via signal-desktop.
     @AboutSignalNL

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     gumbario (gumbario@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 04:46:15 JST gumbario

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     • Threema

     @jwildeboer And @threemaapp is the second most popular paid app in Germany. Nice to see that this one is gaining popularity too.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 04:46:15 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Threema
     • gumbario

     @gumbario From a security and encryption perspective, Threema lags a lot compared to Signal, IMHO. Feel free to start your won thread on the advantages of Threema, but don't try to use my post to gain visibility to my followers to spread what I consider spam. @threemaapp

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     Samuel Lison :lagr_elephant: (samuel@social.familylison.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 07:11:38 JST Samuel Lison :lagr_elephant:

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     @jwildeboer our family just made the switch FROM signal to Matrix - simply due to being able to own our own data, and not needing to use a phone number that ID's us to a centralized server. I know they now allow usernames though.

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 07:59:29 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • MJ Ray
     • Samuel Lison :lagr_elephant:

     @mjr @samuel Yes, I’m sure. But that doesn’t mean you have to agree with me. Feel free to use whatever you think is best.

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     MJ Ray (mjr@masto.bike)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 07:59:30 JST MJ Ray

     • Samuel Lison :lagr_elephant:

     @jwildeboer are you sure? Have to agree with @samuel about the centralised server problem. How do we know it's not backdoored? That said, I prefer xmpp to matrix and wish there were more bridges.

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     Rafael Bonifaz (rbonifaz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 11:04:28 JST Rafael Bonifaz

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     • M.Paola

     @MPaola @jwildeboer here in Latinamerica people use WhatsApp for everything. Then there is an scandal with Meta, they install Signal or Telegram, forget about the scandal and go back to WhatsApp.

     As a friend says convenience is the most adictive drug.

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     M.Paola (mpaola@mastodon.nl)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 11:04:30 JST M.Paola

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     • Rafael Bonifaz

     @rbonifaz @jwildeboer most people use WhatsApp here to manage both social life and business. I guess it's both concerns about privacy as Meta has become very quickly more invasive on the other platforms and a political gesture against zuckerberg

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 16:34:41 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Andy Mouse
     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @andymouse Never let facts get in the way of your prejudices :) Welcome to my blocklist. @AboutSignalNL

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     Andy Mouse (andymouse@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 16:34:43 JST Andy Mouse

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     • Signal Nieuws & Tips

     @jwildeboer

     Not good. It's like making people switch to WhatsApp 2. It will just make it evern harder to make them switch again once this "secure" messenger turns out to - surprise, surprise - spy on them also.

     @AboutSignalNL

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     Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: (jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 20:17:38 JST Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

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     • Samuel Lison :lagr_elephant:

     @samuel whatever makes you and your family happy. Just know that from an encryption and safety perspective you just made a huge step backwards, IMHO. Your freedom :)