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   Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 19:51:00 JST Aral Balkan

   A reminder that Greenland is part of the Overseas Countries and Territories (OCT) of the EU and Greenlandic citizens are EU citizens.

   Any move by Trump and the US to invade and annex Greenland would be a declaration of war with the EU and a gross violation of its 1951 treaty to protect Greenland from attack. (Though not ironic as the mafia never protects you from itself.) Furthermore, an attack on a NATO member would be deemed an attack on all other NATO members (Art 5) and a violation of the treaty (Art 8).

   If neither EU nor NATO members did anything to protect Greenland/Denmark against the US’s overwhelming military might (as is likely) – and, remember, US troops are already in Greenland and in other EU countries also – it would signal that no EU or NATO state is safe should a stronger military decide to invade.

   If anything, if the EU hasn’t understood it yet, it must start treating the US not as an ally but as a threat. Trump isn’t a clown. He’s the fascist leader of the country with – in the words of Kamala Harris – the world’s most lethal military.

   We must shore up our defenses because it is becoming impossible to ignore that the EU is caught between two hostile forces: a fascist US on the one side and a fascist Russia on the other, neither of which have two shits to give about international law (that was a quaint concept while it lasted, wasn’t it?)

   Either we learn to defend ourselves in the EU or we become a vassal state of Gilead. And, as much as I oppose militaries – in a world in which they very much exist – I’d much rather it wasn’t the latter.

   https://www.salon.com/2025/01/24/horrendous-call-with-denmark-pm-over-greenland-deal-left-danes-in-crisis-mode/

   #USA #fascism #EU #Greenland #Denmark #NATO #war

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 20:00:08 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Pelle S Christensen

     @pellechristensen I hear you. *smh* We could have been anything and this is what we chose to be. Humanity, I mean. Here’s hoping there’s a path away from all this that means we still can be.

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     Pelle S Christensen (pellechristensen@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 20:00:09 JST Pelle S Christensen

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     @aral I had never hoped that I would endorse more military production in the EU but reality reshaped that opinion.

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     juliette (juliette@mastodon.green)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 22:26:12 JST juliette

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     @aral “the call frightened Danish authorities and moved both parties farther from a deal.” What weird framing. This is Trump-speak. There is no “deal” to be had. There is nothing on the table that Trump is entitled to. He’s not entitled to Greenland, not a bit of it. Greenland belongs to itself. Making a “deal” about Greenland is a non-starter.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 22:28:06 JST Aral Balkan

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     • juliette

     @juliette “The villain pointed his gun at her head. She moved her head away, moving both parties farther from a deal.”

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     Gondor (grootinside@troet.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:20:23 JST Gondor

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     • Michael Santaly

     @wonkothesane @aral In my pov nobody(?) seem to realise:
     With that group of oligarchs the orange guy is backed by the most powerful companies of the planet. They can switch of satellites (communication), restrict internetfunctions (cloudservices...) restrict trades (Amazon...) and functions in OS (MS, Apple...)... Not to forget, global institutions like ICANN, UN... are based in US.
     With such uninhibited egos EVERYTHING is possible, proven every day.
     Btw. #panamacanal means tradecontrol.

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     Michael Santaly (wonkothesane@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:20:24 JST Michael Santaly

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     • Gondor

     @grootinside @aral This is true, but the point I wanted to make is that the E.U doesn’t need to worrry about our military when they can simple blow on our economy and knock it over

     Joachim repeated this.
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     Gondor (grootinside@troet.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:20:25 JST Gondor

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     • Michael Santaly

     @wonkothesane @aral The latter could(/will?) even happen before anything else - when the ICE follows the plans re undocumented people.
     Farmers won't be able to deliver.
     And in addition bc all planned cuts the meat production will face the same.

     So either way the US is fucked (by oligarchs that is) and with the US citizens the allies.
     So the sooner you'll "sort this out" the better for everybody.

     Good luck 🤞

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     Michael Santaly (wonkothesane@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 00:20:27 JST Michael Santaly

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     @aral I’m an U.S citizen living in NY….at this point I think it’s time for the E.U, and China to hit us with heavy sanctions and trade embargos.

     You all may not understand how quickly this country/Trump’s admin is going to collapse the second the price of goods rise, or we walk into an empty grocery store

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     Chris Armstrong (rhodium103@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:01:21 JST Chris Armstrong

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     @aral

     As much as I wouldn't actually want to test it, are we sure the US has this wonderfully lethal military, given that it seems to mostly be a way to shovel public funds into private arms companies?

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:01:21 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Chris Armstrong

     @Rhodium103 Sadly, hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis can attest that it does.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 19:33:28 JST Aral Balkan

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     He’s doubling down (of course he is).

     https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crkezj07rzro

     #Trump #USA #fascism

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     TC Won't Give In To Lies (tcatinreality@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 19:58:42 JST TC Won't Give In To Lies

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     • HarriettMB

     @HarriettMB @aral

     Yes! And every time he doubles down, Denmark and Europe need to *reduce* their appeasement. If he gets military bases and mineral rights in Greenland after threatening war ... Then that's a clear reward.

     ...and he'll be back for more

     #DontAppease the #AmericanClownEmperor

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     HarriettMB (harriettmb@beige.party)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 19:58:43 JST HarriettMB

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     @aral He could literally start a war with this carry on. Everyone needs to be prepared to protect Greenland, because if he ‘gets Greenland’ he’s going to come for another one he fancies after that; as well as the Panama Canal.

     Aral Balkan repeated this.
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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 20:21:03 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Luuk_Aalders

     @Luuk_Aalders https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/double-down-on

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     Luuk_Aalders (luuk_aalders@mastodon.nl)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 20:21:04 JST Luuk_Aalders

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     @aral

     He is not dubbeling down, a view days ago he threatened the prime minister of Danmark he would take Greenland, if necessary by forse. Trump is a threat for the free world and a total idiot!