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   Devin (carraway@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 17:17:43 JST Devin

   I'm sure this can be blamed on cars somehow.

   #sinkhole #MissionSt

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     valhalla (valhalla@social.gl-como.it)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 17:17:40 JST valhalla

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     • SewBlue

     @sewblue @carraway

     “sewers can create holes on their own, especially with water leaks.”

     and here I was “yes, I've had it happen too, making a hole when unpicking a seam is really really annoying… wait, water leaks? water leaks while sewing?”

     dear English, can we please have a better term for “person who sews”? thanks :D

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     Devin (carraway@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 17:17:41 JST Devin

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     @sewblue Made sort of safe, anyway. SFDPW closed one lane on the northbound side (far side in that photo), but left both southbound lanes open. At the time I passed it the first time the hole had already widened to the point where cars' tires were audibly thunking against the far side of the hole in the inner southbound lane, or swerving into the outer one.

     Passed by again a few days later and they'd been back to extend the closure across that lane too, either before or after the collapse widened further.

     There's sewer piping staged nearby and notices of impending parking restrictions but I haven't followed that work closely enough to know whether part of the work caused the hole, was a response to the hole, or a response to the state of the sewer which made the hole more likely.

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     SewBlue (sewblue@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 17:17:41 JST SewBlue

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     @carraway sewers can create holes on their own, especially with water leaks.

     https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA14MP002.aspx

     In the case above, the NY city kept fixing the pavement without bothering to look into why it kept sinking. The sewer system had a break and was creating a void. Eventually the void created enough pressure on the surrounding pipes a gas line cracked. Migrated to a building.and killed 8 people.

     Make safe includes stopping people or cars fom falling in or getting in harms way. It doesn't mean fixing. That they have widened the area without fixing is concerning.

     I am surprised this hasn't been fixed yet.

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     SewBlue (sewblue@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 25-Jan-2025 17:17:42 JST SewBlue

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     @carraway that is s sinkhole.

     Frankly, rather lucky the pavement failed quickly. Gets scary when it keeps pavement keeps it structure for a a while.

     It looks like they have made safe and are waiting for the other utilities to mark USAs. The area has been marked out in white but no one had marked.

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     SewBlue (sewblue@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 01:48:59 JST SewBlue

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     • valhalla

     @valhalla @carraway I'm sure my handle didn't help!

     Dropping the gendered "seamstress" has been tougher because "sewer" has that wee little 2 meaning problem. Sewist just doesn't roll off the tongue.

     English is normally pretty good at changing spellings for different meanings (their there and they're) but not sewer. Pronounciation is entirely different, and context is king!

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     Devin (carraway@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 02:02:10 JST Devin

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     • SewBlue

     @sewblue @valhalla Oh, didn't even think about that one. And now I'm fantasizing about some sort of block-long tracked sewing machine for line-stitching new sewer pipe at 15mph. Perhaps the theme from some of the Mad Max movies could play.

     I did put in an SF311 ticket saying roughly "this hole is expanding outside your original lane closure and cars are swerving." It got juggled around, duped and un-duped and there's never any substantive reply to these things, so I can't tell if that was why they adjusted the closure, or if they came back to check on their own, or whatever else, or what's gone on with the (pre?)-planned relaying work.

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