The Liberux Nexx (https://liberux.net/) seems like it could be the #LinuxPhone I've been waiting for (assuming, RK3588s does not burn through that battery in minutes ;-) )
You can follow them @Liberux
(Thanks @awai for the hint!)
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LINux on MOBile (linmob@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:49:10 JST 
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TX4RLY (buf0@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:52:38 JST 
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@linmob @awai
WOW, I think our little secret has been revealed, we hope that in a short time you will be able to see the first functional prototypes. We are working very hard on it, by the way, all our designs, both hardware and software, will be free. At the moment the web is a first version, some things will be modified. -
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PureTryOut (bart@mastodon.fam-ribbers.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:52:38 JST 
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@BUF0 @linmob @awai This seems like a great project! Little bit sad to see it will come with it's own distro though, imo hardware vendors should not focus on shipping their own OS but instead make sure existing mainstream options work well with it (by mainlining and using open-source drivers ofc!). A lot of people will want to install a distro they're already familiar with anyway.
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Clayton (craftyguy@freeradical.zone)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:52:39 JST 
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@bart @BUF0 @linmob @awai yeah too bad they chose to roll their own OS... that rarely works out well long term for OEMs 🤷♂️
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justsoup (justsoup@mstdn.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:52:42 JST 
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@craftyguy @bart @BUF0 @linmob @awai I wonder how we could make postmarketOS more attractive to vendors...?
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A-wai :debian: (awai@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:52:48 JST 
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@bart @BUF0 @linmob IMHO it depends on the diff with the upstream distro, but for rolling out a product it makes sense as vendors usually need a fair share of customizations, at least in the early days.
The trap here is the risk of ending up in the "we have our stuff working, no need to bother with upstreaming" zone, so I'm just hoping it won't happen 🤞
(note: ofc I'd prefer getting Mobian contributions rather than another mobile-focused Debian derivative 😉)
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Danct12 (danct12@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:36 JST 
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@BUF0 @rolandlo @linmob @awai I assume this runs kernel 6.1.84 as of right now?
Sent from Orange Pi 5 running Arch Linux ARM
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Roland Lötscher (rolandlo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:37 JST 
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@BUF0 @linmob @awai Is this device running on a (close to) mainline kernel? No halium involved, right?
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TX4RLY (buf0@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:37 JST
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A-wai :debian: (awai@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:43 JST
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> Though I suspect the actual chipset in use differs between CYW43455 and AP6256...
IIRC that's the same exact chipset, just a different module vendor (at least they both work with the same "compatible" string and FW files)
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A-wai :debian: (awai@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:44 JST
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@samueldr @linmob @Liberux This is the module used in the PinePhone Pro, and I don't think I saw any wifi-related complaint for this device.
To me that's a plus, as we know the mainline driver "just works" :)
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samueldr (samueldr@ap.samueldr.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:44 JST 
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@awai @linmob @Liberux Huh... I didn't know.
The first PinePhone Pro revision staff with AP6256, the second rev and upcoming production all use AW-CM256SM.
Which I guess explains why it didn't register with me at first. Though I suspect the actual chipset in use differs between CYW43455 and AP6256... So I won't make a judgement call based on that.
Though quickly searching for WPA3 and pinephone pro, it looks like it also had issues with WPA3 🤔. (I suspect those reports are coming from AW-CM256SM models...)
But if it's at least not worse than my experience with the AP6256, it should be serviceable for Wi-Fi, and not a drawback for most use-cases at first. Good, I guess.
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samueldr (samueldr@ap.samueldr.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 05:53:45 JST
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@linmob @awai @Liberux anyone has details on the AW-CM256SM (CYW43455 chipset) Wi-Fi, and its general expectations regarding perfs?
In my experience, one of the worst flaw in the Pinephone (A64) was its Wi-Fi chipset, and integration thereof.
The CYW43455 is the one used in recent Raspberry Pi models, which I've been told is "bad"... But I'm still not discounting it given the context. It could be a Raspberry Pi issue...
... though it reportedly still can't do WPA3, which doesn't bode well.
... but maybe there's hope(?), reportedly the Asahi Linux people have made good work around the driver it uses?
Anyways: I wonder how likely it is, that Wi-Fi is going to be the Achille's heel of this new device.
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A-wai :debian: (awai@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 13:44:37 JST
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@bart @BUF0 @linmob Agreed, a small overlay is way easier to maintain than forking/rebuilding the world (see PureOS)
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PureTryOut (bart@mastodon.fam-ribbers.com)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 13:44:39 JST
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@awai @BUF0 @linmob Sure but those customizations could just be a repo for any distro rather than rolling out a full distro themselves 😉
Yes Mobian contributions would be great, with possibly a small custom repo on top with some branding and early days maybe some hardware support but it should be the goal to get rid of that.
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