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   Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 22:44:59 JST Jay Baker

   • Aral Balkan

   Capitalism sucks so much that it's tough to even find decent service providers online. I am sickened by people like Andy Yen of Proton (who have had a lot of my money over the years, but not for much longer) spouting "both sides" bullshit, evoking Swiss neutrality tropes with false equivalence between fascists and anarchists, Zionists and Palestinians, and @aral recently reminded me of how the Desmond Tutu quote applies here: "If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." I'm sick and tired of techbro culture narratives deliberately disconnecting tech liberties from civil liberties and freedom.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 22:48:31 JST Jay Baker

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     The challenge is in finding those service providers worth using. It's all fine being focused on privacy and green tech but not cool when some of the very same providers are anti-union or adherent to their country's laws that suppress Palestinian voices. This is like a fucking riddle to solve, set by Edward Nigma himself (tech villain that he is!) I'll follow up with my findings.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 23:00:32 JST Jay Baker

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     • MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

     @fkamiah17 I had a page on my website listing media and tech resources that folx found useful and I was going to bring back updated, but I think I'll wait a little longer now until after I've done this!

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     MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸 (fkamiah17@syzito.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 23:00:33 JST MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

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     @MediaActivist I await the results of your investigation. I'm very pissed off about Proton. Now I need to have a look into GMX, the other provider I use.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 23:04:22 JST Jay Baker

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     I will add that it's not all doom and gloom - there are companies like Vivaldi and Signal doing some really cool shit. But the fact that they are few and far between is a sad indictment.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 00:51:56 JST Jay Baker

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     • Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:
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     @onepict @ntnsndr Ooh will do, thanks!

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     Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: (onepict@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 00:51:58 JST Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

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     • Nathan Schneider

     @MediaActivist talk to @ntnsndr about May 1st and read Governable spaces.

     https://luminosoa.org/site/books/m/10.1525/luminos.181/

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     Worik (worik@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 05:38:36 JST Worik

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     @MediaActivist

     > Andy Yen of Proton (who have had a lot of my money over the years, but not for much longer) spouting "both sides" bullshit,

     What are you referring to?

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 05:38:36 JST Jay Baker

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     • Worik

     @worik https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/

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     Worik (worik@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 06:20:14 JST Worik

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     @MediaActivist

     Thank you

     I am not disturbed by what I see their

     Encrypted "host proof" platforms must serve everybody. Freedoms are for people we hate, otherwise they are not.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 06:20:14 JST Jay Baker

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     • Worik

     @worik That's not quite what this is. I think Signal's Meredith Whittaker sums it up effectively: the technology should be private and secure for all, yes, but the ethos should never hold a neutrality between freedom and fascism. The very principles of such tech and civil liberties are in opposition to fascism, and just as Meredith Whittaker has, we should all champion opposition to fascism. Expressing "neutrality" is, after all, simply supporting the oppressor.

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     Worik (worik@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 06:44:34 JST Worik

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     @MediaActivist There are plenty of fascists on Signal

     I do not care, I am on Signal too

     There is room for disagreement about political philosophy, and the paradox of tolerance. When it comes to tech, I count the bits, not the views

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 06:44:34 JST Jay Baker

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     • Worik

     @worik You've clearly missed my point. I literally stated the technology should be private and secure for all - so telling me there are plenty of fascists on Signal is a moot point (and shows how fucking ignorant they are, using tech from those that despise them). Anyway, good luck finding "room for disagreement" as fascism increases. Maybe you're not as familiar with Karl Popper as you'd like me to believe.

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     Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 19:41:48 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Worik

     @MediaActivist @worik Meredith seems to be one of the few decent people in tech at the moment.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:12:19 JST Jay Baker

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     • it's kat! 🇵🇸✊

     @kathimmel Firstly, congratulations on de-Googling! Secondly, as recent years passed I signed up for more and more Proton services, and paid for a lot as well. The blessing in disguise here is that it's freed me to shop around and take on services individually as opposed to as a package (which had been playing on my mind more too, from a security standpoint). So while I share some of your frustration, we can take lessons from the experience too (and/or I'm rather desperately trying to find the silver lining haha)

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     it's kat! 🇵🇸✊ (kathimmel@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:12:20 JST it's kat! 🇵🇸✊

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     • Aral Balkan

     @MediaActivist @aral relatively recently, i finally de-gmailed (& de-googled) & had heard high praise for proton, so signed up. along comes this. fuck.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 05:37:20 JST Jay Baker

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     • it's kat! 🇵🇸✊

     @kathimmel Definitely an upside! And you are as kind (and self-depracating!) as ever!

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     it's kat! 🇵🇸✊ (kathimmel@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 05:37:21 JST it's kat! 🇵🇸✊

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     @MediaActivist you're wise & patient - two things i can't count as attributes of my own. :D i suppose one upside is that you learn not to get too attached to email addresses & not to sign up for too much shite.