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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 07:36:46 JST 
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@admin @ArdainianRight @FranciscoScaramanga @GhostLiberator @GummyNerds @amerika @eriner @sun It gets better:
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 04:38:43 JST 
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Italians aren't Romans. Romans were a Nordic tribe. When they collapsed, all the tribes of the empire merged, so you get the modern Asiatic Italian. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 04:39:33 JST
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@amerika @ArdainianRight @FranciscoScaramanga @GhostLiberator @GummyNerds @admin @eriner @sun The Romans' own descriptions of people north of the civilized world seem to indicate that this is wishful thinking. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 07:04:04 JST
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@amerika @ArdainianRight @FranciscoScaramanga @GhostLiberator @GummyNerds @admin @eriner @sun I have seen the statues and read the descriptions. I just said that they looked like Italian dudes; you sent a link to Tacitus, look at the descriptions. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 07:04:05 JST
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Statuary and descriptions from the time say otherwise. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 07:21:16 JST
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> In the meantime, the genetic data is very clear.
Clear on what, that the Mediterranean populations mixed a lot in antiquity? Everyone knows that. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 07:21:17 JST
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Vague and using language that may not translate directly to terms we use now. In the meantime, the genetic data is very clear. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 05:09:21 JST
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> No, that the mixing was a product of the Roman Empire and its decay.
Building an empire full of roads causes populations to mix, and the Mediterranean is one of the most temperate seas on earth. Before the end of the Roman Empire, you more or less expect people on one coast to look pretty similar to people a few cities away up the coastline or across on the nearby islands or whatever. It's not strange that Romans would look Italian because that's what happens. People didn't spring out of the soil, fully formed.
> dangers of miscegenation
I fail to see a real danger except that a soft-bellied aristocracy (good luck bringing back kings) let itself get eaten some time after the empire split in half. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 05:09:22 JST
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No, that the mixing was a product of the Roman Empire and its decay. Hence the population now does not resemble the original population.
It's an object lesson in the dangers of miscegenation for any group, mixing with any other group. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 03:51:26 JST
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@amerika @ArdainianRight @FranciscoScaramanga @GhostLiberator @GummyNerds @admin @eriner @sun I have seen these staunch anti-miscegenation aristocratic motherfuckers in the woods.
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 03:51:27 JST
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Under the aristocracy, Europe rose.
As miscegenation increased, Rome fell. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 04:30:47 JST
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Still did better than democracy, which is about to hit its expiration date. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 04:30:47 JST
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> Still did better than democracy,
I think you confuse "democracy failing" with a series of events that occurred (purely by coincidence, I am certain) around the advent of mass communications and the formalization of propaganda methodology.
I'm not sure what it is that you consider a failure anyway. "These people are doing things I hate and I am powerless to stop them because they do not listen to me because they do not have to and the solution to the problem here is to have kings that do not listen because they do not have to." In material terms, you want to keep the autocrats but stop *calling* it a democracy. I don't see any other difference and you tend to gloss over details and decline to elaborate.
Countries weren't supposed to be this big. That's all.Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: likes this. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 05:23:25 JST
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> If people vote and power transitions accordingly, it's a democracy.
Either the will of the people has been expressed or it is not. Is it your opinion that the diversity you have been decrying is the will of the people?
> I remember a month or so ago half the Fediverse was certain that the vote was rigged and voting was useless
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 05:23:26 JST
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If people vote and power transitions accordingly, it's a democracy.
Too big to fail, maybe, but there's also the problem of very bad decisions made by the democracy.
I remember a month or so ago half the Fediverse was certain that the vote was rigged and voting was useless, so it's kind of funny to see democracy in action.
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 08:31:31 JST
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I think the people voted for diversity but misunderstood it and saw it as a lesser evil.
At least, this was the case for me back when I supported it. "Stop being mean to Black people" was basically the mood. Still is, just via different methods.
BNF... British National Front? I think lots of Right-wingers like to lose and then blame someone. But don't tell anyone I said that. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 08:31:31 JST
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> "Stop being mean to Black people" was basically the mood.
There's still nothing wrong with that. I don't think anyone voted for 10k Haitians to be dumped on a small town in Ohio that only had a population of 30k to begin with. That is unelected dicks in the federal government making deals with mayors in local governments and suddenly the bus arrives. A king would not fix that problem and literally no one in that town voted for it.
> BNF... British National Front?
Sorry, BND. The Bundesnachrichtendienst.
> I think lots of Right-wingers
No, these are Germans working for their federal government, trying to stop "fascism". It's exactly like the Russian troll farms but they're cosplaying as Nuremspergs on Twitter, random forums, 4chan, and other networks like fedi. They had a court rule against them spying on foreign journos ( https://rsf.org/en/worldwide-mass-surveillance-germany-s-intelligence-service-declared-unconstitutional-landmark ) and consequently started laundering their activities through the BMBF ("Bundesministerium für Bildung und Forschung", the Federal Ministry of Education and Research). They're the ones that dumped the libsoftiktok dox. (Ironically, the BMBF was tasked with stopping political extremist movements in the 1920s, and one of the people they hired to do this was named Adolf Hitler. After being assigned to watch the National Socialist party, he eventually decided to join it. Needless to say, the organization's strategy backfired in that case, and I have no cause to believe they're doing a better job this time.)
Incidentally, the German government hates fedi because there is no lever to pull. See attached for the German government's report on why they hate fedi. There's no one they can call and influence fedi policy, because there is no fedi policy, just a large number of independently governed servers. They can call up their contact at Youtube, they can threaten to fine Google or block Youtube in the EU, but they can't do this with fedi.
Now, you keep saying "Kings would solve this" but kings are another lever. What solves this is making sure there is no lever.
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 09:01:09 JST
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@amerika @ArdainianRight @FranciscoScaramanga @GhostLiberator @GummyNerds @admin @eriner @sun
> The "no lever" solution is a fantasy, in my view.
Fedi already has no lever. That's part of the problem solved (until the Germans figure out that ICANN and IANA are levers, but you know my solution to that). You can say it doesn't work all you want but there it is working already, frustrating attempts by the state to coopt or subvert it in order to censor it. You are here, on fedi, saying things the German government does not like, and the BMBF and the BND can't stop you.
Incidentally, you were named in the README for one of the projects they have funded, so you should probably keep on top of this: https://github.com/travisbrown/unsuspensions?tab=readme-ov-file#im-back-tweets . It's paid for by the Prototype Fund, https://github.com/prototypefund :
> The Prototype Fund is a project of the Open Knowledge Foundation Germany [ https://okfn.de/en/ ], funded by the Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF) [ https://www.bmbf.de/en/index.html ]. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 09:01:10 JST
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The "no lever" solution is a fantasy, in my view. Anarchy and Utopia always are.
However, I am no fan of the administrative wing of government, which is arguably unconstitutional.
Interesting about the Germans raging out of control. Reminds me of the interwar days when the Left took over their establishment there.
As far as a king fixing the problem, consider this: less code, more processing. Maybe the metaphor sticks. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 09:18:45 JST
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> I'm talking government, not internet, here, sorry.
That is their government, trying to exercise control of the internet and by doing this, get control of mass communications. As far as this has to do with broader application, this is a demonstration of a case where having no lever means no one gets to pull the lever, which means no one controls it. If there is a lever, a psychopath will have his hand on it sooner rather than later. This is one case, there are several. Take Bitcoin, for example: the government loves the exchanges, because the exchanges are a lever. But Bitcoin itself has none.
> It got re-banned a few weeks later.
I wonder if Travis Brown or ze Gehmuhns had anything to do with that.
At any rate, if they know who you are and they think you should be stopped, you should probably look into who they are. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 09:18:46 JST
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@p @ArdainianRight @admin @FranciscoScaramanga @GummyNerds @eriner @GhostLiberator @sun
I'm talking government, not internet, here, sorry.
Interesting they mention that account. It got re-banned a few weeks later. -
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pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 09:41:16 JST
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> As far as levers go, one always needs a lever or has a de facto one;
Nope. See also: fedi, Bitcoin, Afghanistan.
> the important thing is to align incentives so that abuse is not valuable.
"Make a system that cannot be exploited."
Let me know when you solve *that* one. -
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≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 09:41:17 JST
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I don't know. I've been on the radar of the unfun people since the Reddit and Facebook days. Some feminist complained about my endorsement of monarchism and eugenics, I think, or maybe it was the ethnonationalism.
As far as levers go, one always needs a lever or has a de facto one; the important thing is to align incentives so that abuse is not valuable.
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