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   pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 10:53:02 JST pistolero
   :terry: Terry Davis had a UsesThis interview: https://usesthis.com/interviews/terry.davis/
   
   That site is 99% pure sodium fluoride so it is really weird to see Terry on there.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 11:11:23 JST pistolero

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     @berkberkman There are a few interesting ones, there are a few of my friends on there. Most of the site is fluoride.
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     Berk Berkman (berkberkman@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 11:11:24 JST Berk Berkman

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     @p Probably the only decent article right after seeing the front page.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 11:34:19 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p Also quite interesting to learn that he used Windows, I think all the videos I saw was either just TempleOS or TempleOS+Ubuntu.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 11:35:44 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p That said to me most interesting was https://anders.unix.se/2015/12/10/screenshots-from-developers--2002-vs.-2015/
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 12:05:14 JST pistolero

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan I first bumped into it when it was called LoseThos (I was writing a roundup of niche OSs on 711chan) so I recall reading about him using Windows and stuff. I mostly missed Terry's "constant streaming" era, I briefly bumped into him when he was yelling at people on HN.
     
     The LoseThos CD image was pretty small, about 5MB. Looks like it makes several attempts to boot before actually booting; I didn't give it persistent storage so I wonder if Terry shoved some canaries into memory to detect problems booting. The timestamp on this file and the rest of the files in that directory indicate that this was the current pre-TempleOS as of August 10, 2010. (I thought I'd lost all this stuff but I bumped into it while writing this post.)
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 12:07:45 JST pistolero

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     @lanodan Ha, boot that ISO, it's charming. Terry is kind of a magical being:
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 12:08:14 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p Yeah, also missed the streams, didn't have the internet for it back then anyway as I was just using hotspots and high-school network.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 12:12:33 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p Heh tried it in 86Box out of curiosity and it requires x86_64 which it doesn't emulates.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 12:17:41 JST pistolero

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     @lanodan Oh, yeah, I was just talking about that in the other thread; that is what got me scrolling through UsesThis.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 12:25:29 JST pistolero

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan Yep! That "Welcome" document (that you can see about half of in the screenshot) is actually a fun read.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:03:12 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p Heh somehow forgot that it has effectively a HolyC shell, pretty cool thing, reminds me of tccboot and my own bootstrap-initrd which at least for now just uses tcc+musl as blobs.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 03-Jan-2025 13:17:32 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p Oh wow first time I get this with QEMU:

     KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 extra data[0]: 0x0000000000000001 extra data[1]: 0x000000000051620f extra data[2]: 0x0000000000000000 extra data[3]: 0x0000000000000400 extra data[4]: 0x000000010000000f extra data[5]: 0x00000000c8837a18 extra data[6]: 0x0000000080000306 extra data[7]: 0x0000000000000000 emulation failure RAX=0000000000016eff RBX=0000000051518650 RCX=00000000c8837a28 RDX=0000000051580242 RSI=00000000516130da RDI=00000000000a00e7 RBP=000000005150d7b8 RSP=00000000c8837a20 R8 =0000000000000001 R9 =0000000000011c47 R10=0000000051584442 R11=0000000051584428 R12=00000000000002d0 R13=0000000000000001 R14=00000000000002e4 R15=000000004fd437e0 RIP=0000000000051107 RFL=00010002 [-------] CPL=0 II=0 A20=1 SMM=0 HLT=0 ES =0050 0000000000000000 ffffffff 00c09300 DPL=0 DS [-WA] CS =0040 0000000000000000 00000000 00209b00 DPL=0 CS64 [-RA] SS =0050 0000000000000000 ffffffff 00c09300 DPL=0 DS [-WA] DS =0050 0000000000000000 ffffffff 00c09300 DPL=0 DS [-WA] FS =0050 0000000051518c28 ffffffff 00c09300 DPL=0 DS [-WA] GS =0050 0000000057d88a28 ffffffff 00c09300 DPL=0 DS [-WA] LDT=0000 0000000000000000 0000ffff 00008200 DPL=0 LDT TR =0060 0000000057d86828 ffffffff 00808b00 DPL=0 TSS64-busy GDT= 00000000000103f0 0000045f IDT= 0000000000fbc828 00000fff CR0=80000031 CR2=0000000000000000 CR3=0000000000182000 CR4=000000b0 DR0=0000000000000000 DR1=0000000000000000 DR2=0000000000000000 DR3=0000000000000000 DR6=00000000ffff0ff0 DR7=0000000000000400 EFER=0000000000000500 Code=00 00 15 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 ec 5c 51 00 00 00 00 28 d6 <62> 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 03:14:27 JST pistolero

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     @lanodan It is, it's delightful.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 03:35:03 JST þernia

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan @p the start of a lost media horror film
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 03:39:14 JST pistolero

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     @lanodan The whole thing is ring-0 and Terry was doing a lot of unconventional stuff, so if anyone's going to find a path that was not exercised previously, my money would be on him. He always used VMWare, I think he still used VMWare even after switching to ubertuber. I wonder if there's something in there that KVM can't account for or something that hardware ignores but qemu chokes on, or just a bug.
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     𝔧𝔞𝔢 (jae@wizard.casa)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 03:39:34 JST 𝔧𝔞𝔢

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     @p @berkberkman

     > Most of the site is fluoride.

     what does this even mean?

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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 03:48:34 JST pistolero

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     @jae @berkberkman
     
     > what does this even mean?
     
     There used to be wells and rivers, then the water was in pipes that the government controls, then the government started putting fluoride into the water, despite there being no evidence of a benefit and some evidence that it makes people stupid.
     
     So, you know "Interview with some Electron developer with Disney-themed tattoos and he's dyed his hair to the colors of the Ukrainian flag" and he's like "Nowadays I do all my coding in VSCode because of how great Copilot is and I bought two Apple displays so that I can see Outlook and Slack at the same time".
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     𝔧𝔞𝔢 (jae@wizard.casa)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 04:04:41 JST 𝔧𝔞𝔢

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     @p @berkberkman

     > There used to be wells and rivers, then the water was in pipes that the government controls, then the government started putting fluoride into the water, despite there being no evidence of a benefit and some evidence that it makes people stupid.

     yes, i knew about this part. hides his fluoride mouth wash

     > So, you know "Interview with some Electron developer with Disney-themed tattoos and he's dyed his hair to the colors of the Ukrainian flag" and he's like "Nowadays I do all my coding in VSCode because of how great Copilot is and I bought two Apple displays so that I can see Outlook and Slack at the same time".

     it all makes sense now. like the ui/ux designer that looks like harry potter fell into a bathtub full of depo-test while gazing quietly out of their stained glass window in the bathroom which is really saran wrap colored in the ukranian flag.

     reading now.

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     Jonny (jonny@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 04:49:59 JST Jonny

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     @p @berkberkman @jae
     I’ve seen the mixing tanks at water tank reservoirs where they can mix in any chemical they want too the municipal system
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 04:50:54 JST pistolero

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     @Jonny @berkberkman @jae Oh, yeah, I overheard the guy in a place I used to live that left the chlorine on all day; he thought no one noticed.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 07:22:28 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @p Pretty sure that's just the OS crashing and not having some kind of kernel panic handling, after all I tried to open a non-text file.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 10:01:02 JST pistolero

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     @lanodan Oh, I thought you meant qemu had crashed.
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     Jonny (jonny@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 10:01:07 JST Jonny

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     @p @berkberkman @jae
     Most municipalities do shock the system with extra chlorine from time too time. They never tell you when though.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 10:02:39 JST pistolero

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     @Jonny @berkberkman @jae :vomit:
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     𝔧𝔞𝔢 (jae@wizard.casa)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 10:03:51 JST 𝔧𝔞𝔢

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     @Jonny @p @berkberkman they don't need to. your eyes sting in the shower and your mouth tastes like a pool when you drink from the tap. horrible stuff

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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 11:08:23 JST 

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     @p @lanodan >I wonder if there's something in there that KVM can't account for or something that hardware ignores but qemu chokes on, or just a bug.
     Crunk mentioned several times that PC speaker emulation is broken pretty much everywhere but VMware.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 11:09:36 JST pistolero

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     @mint @lanodan Seems like that'd be really easy to emulate.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 12:54:16 JST 

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     @p @lanodan Anyway, they're planning to switch to KVM under the hood so at least the module unload dance won't be necessary if you want to use both.
     https://www.phoronix.com/news/VMware-Workstation-KVM
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 13:09:15 JST pistolero

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     @mint @lanodan VMWare is closed, I don't trust a Broadcom subsidiary in Palo Alto to not try to plaster my machine with rootkits. Think I'd rather just use a spare Thinkpad as actual hardware than let VMWare onto my box.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:09:18 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @p @lanodan @mint Having two small gpus is now possible in a small desktop. (i don't have a picture of my setup with that small desktop)
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:10:57 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @p @lanodan @mint (i do)
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:14:47 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @lanodan @mint Ha, nice.
     
     I barely have one at present; old GeForce. Does everything I need, it'll play games in an emulator one one monitor while a movie is playing on the other, this is basically as much as I need from a GPU, short of XMR mining and AI and whatnot.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:24:02 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @lanodan @mint I was lamenting internally that current space constraints have caused me to do this monitor vertically and it's now 3:4 instead of 4:3, but it just occurred to me that emulating DS games was a moderate pain before but it should be great now.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:35:24 JST 

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     @p @dcc @lanodan >short of XMR mining
     More effective on general purpose CPUs, I reckon. ETH was the ground for GPU mining until they switched to PoS.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:36:51 JST pistolero

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     @mint @dcc @lanodan Yeah? I've got a lot of idle ARM cores at the moment. Wonder if it's actually profitable now that I'm in the middle of goddamn nowhere.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 14:38:33 JST 

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     @p @dcc @lanodan Give it a shot but don't expect more than a spare change.
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     vix (vix@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 02:48:13 JST vix

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     @p internet explorer

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