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   Nina Paley (ninapaley@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:30:31 JST Nina Paley
   America is having a long-overdue reckoning on immigration.
   But I am surprised some Americans are currently against LEGAL immigration of skilled foreigners who really do make this country great. I thought we were all down with addressing illegal immigration of unskilled unvetted un-sponsored potentially violent men. But how could any American oppose enabling the best and brightest in the world to live and work in the USA, which benefits us all?
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:30:56 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @ninapaley See also:
     https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/immigration-immigrants-and-the-american
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     @polarisera reposted your post (polarisera@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:35:33 JST @polarisera reposted your post

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     @Flick @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons You have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes. Elon really screwed the pooch on this. You can't just hire anyone. You have to establish by politics that you can't find Americans to do it. They state dept creates these magic categories that allow you to hire from. You can't switch jobs. You are tied to the company. Buckle up, it's rare the American public is about to get a full blast of the scam.

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     Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:35:34 JST Flick ??

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     @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons Never mind Twitter, you should see my timeline!

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     @Flick @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons Ask me, I've been involved in trying to hire foreign talent from many perspectives. it's a racket designed by the big tech companies to fuck everyone over. I could list tons of people we could NEVER hire, because their classification doesn't allow them to come over.

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     RadicalCartoons (radicalcartoons@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:35:35 JST RadicalCartoons

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     @ninapaley I see no evidence Americans are against legal immigration?
     https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/12/19/americans-lean-toward-keeping-legal-immigration-steady-see-high-skilled-workers-as-a-priority/
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     Nina Paley (ninapaley@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:35:35 JST Nina Paley

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     @RadicalCartoons They are on Twitter. LOL
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:37:43 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @polarisera @Flick @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons Corruption is everywhere.
     What's going to be interesting is the divide between those who think there should be no scams, cartels, cronyism, corruption etc and those who think these things are ok if their team does it.
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     @polarisera reposted your post (polarisera@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:42:50 JST @polarisera reposted your post

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     @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons H1B isn't really legal immigration, legal immigration would include become single-citizens of America. It is indentured servitude that the tech bros have been using to sell out America. We'll get to dual citizenship soon.

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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 03:52:08 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @ninapaley It's probably because it's been turned into an *all or nothing* debate, like so many things have.
     Nuance is out of the window when you need to *win* on the internet.
     *I like legal immigration because my grandparents came here and started a business* becomes *so you want rapists in your town?*
     *I oppose illegal immigration because we don't know who's coming i* becomes *so you won't support refugees?*
     It's hard to cut through the bad faith actors, but we must.
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     LadyMont (ladymont@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 05:48:26 JST LadyMont

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     @polarisera @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons it's cheap and poor labor.
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     @LadyMont @polarisera @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons People as commodities. The currency of tyrants everywhere.
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     @KeepTakingTheSoma @Flick @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons One the secrets is all the shitlib woke-ass jobs -- like writer, artist, graphic designer are NOT part of H1B, so the woke-ass shitlibs just get shout Hitler! Hitler! without ever having to face competition from H1B visa workers taking their woke-ass jobs. Kind of weird, right? Magical shitlibs not having to face the consquences of their magical policies.

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     @polarisera @Flick @ninapaley @RadicalCartoons When they claim it's all rainbows and unicorns, they mean they will never lose their job. Their job is to tell the rest of us that losing our jobs is good for us.
     It's like the daft ones who think they'll be able to continue philosophising under their communism, not realising they'll be assigned to pick fruit.
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     Nina Paley (ninapaley@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 12:50:49 JST Nina Paley

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     @polarisera @KeepTakingTheSoma @Flick @RadicalCartoons Ironically, most of these jobs are about to be rendered obsolete by AI.
     Interesting times.
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     @ninapaley @KeepTakingTheSoma @Flick @RadicalCartoons One of my more conspiratorial, hard-core radfem friends, says the H1B is really about bringing the most sexists of "tech bros" cultures in to further the old boys club. However, I happen to know most Indians in our highly educated area are very open to female achievement, and most wives work and focus equally on educating their daughters. I don't know a single SAHM educated Indian mom.

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     @polarisera @ninapaley @Flick @RadicalCartoons I suspect the whole mess of the last few years is about dividing populations so they squabble among themselves rather than join forces to quash globalist money-grabbers.
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     mittimithai (mittimithai@neenster.org)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 03:11:43 JST mittimithai

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     It's like a layer of obfuscation around immigration has been torn off in the public debate across the world. You can really see it in Canada which used to really love lots of fluffy happy language around it.
     
     I think there are defensible positions against H1-Bs. It's not slavery, people are free to not apply for them, but it does raise questions for the average person as to how all this works. I.e., why do we have these programs in the most powerful nation on earth with the best schools that should just be able to make more, say, software engineers the way India can?
     
     I think the reality is the knobs that control the number of software engineers being produced in India vs. the number in America and the number that come here is a decision made by just a few people and is largely obfuscated to the public. It seems like some complicated game between global powers..."fine, you make more software engineers, we'll let some come here so you can buy more of our stuff...don't descend into war because that will cost me as well, I also don't want any crazy terrorist acts...I'm going to keep putting my investments into natural gas fracking and ensuring my companies have a foot print in your country..."
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     @mittimithai@neenster.org @ninapaley@spinster.xyz
     
     Taking it to the reducio ad absurdam: if there truly was an untapped talent pool of tens of thousands of MENSA-level engineers, in #India, then it would be trivially easy for #SiliconValley VCs to fund a multi-million-dollar startup in India and hire local talent.
     
     The existing procedural hurdles under the #H1B program are not very demanding, but hiring locally, directly in India, would be even faster.
     
     Plenty of Brahman generational wealth, too, to coinvest in a proposal.

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     kuteboiCoder (kuteboicoder@subs4social.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Dec-2024 03:19:32 JST kuteboiCoder

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     @mittimithai@neenster.org @ninapaley@spinster.xyz
     
     The fact that #SiliconValley VCs and wealthy Brahmans aren't banging down the door to funnel millions to University of Mumbai graduates indicates that they really don't drink their own koolaid.
     
     There's plenty of #koolaid in the #VC world - the promise of #AGI for example - and it's much more #exciting when they're the ones drinking the koolaid.