@lanodan No no, it's just that I have no idea how she speaks to her chat while playing. You can't pause and there are seldom reliable breaks in the action.
@druid zen is amazingly dedicated to the bit, she's ancient and has always done it. I like her quite a bit, most of her streams are kinda pointless chatting and the newer models are an awful eyesore but when she gets around to it she's dooby-tier creative
@sampo /vt/ seems exactly split between thinking Zen is one of the absolute best in the game, and SCREAMING "TRANNY" like a schizo whenever she comes up.*
@druid it'll be interesting to see what happens now that people are starting to leave even holo for an indie career. dooby is incredibly successful already and I assume picrelated will follow a similar path next year. gura is probably going too. these companies are gonna have to adjust if they want to be anything but stepping stones in the future, if they want to retain real talent they're gonna have to relax their attitude. as you mentioned locking up the assets is dumb and that's probably one thing that could change.
@sampo I just want to hear her having fun again... Hearing her say things like "Nobody cares enough about me to hate me" or cry telling her fans that she thinks she's fail them, that hurt. At least in the Sunny webfishing collab she sounds joyful again...
And her Victoria model will NEVER COME BACK because it's stuck in the Niji mines. Total salaryman death.
@sampo I'm experienced at skipping Zatsu now lol... I only left it on when it was Victoria Brightshied/MoguGhost because honestly her voice is the best chuuba voice I've ever heard.
I was only following her for a week or two before her Niji graduation and yet the more time that passes, the more I realise how special she was and how much she could easily have rivaled Pomu/Mint as my kamioshi. Even though Vivi isn't FUNNY to the same level Pomu is, she's just so sweet...
Every day or two I check her PL YouTube and Twitch channels, as well as Sunnysplosion's channels, to see if she's "properly come back" yet and every day I go away depressed from seeing nothing, and go and look at lady knights elsewhere.
Oh God, reading this post back.... It happened, didn't it. Goslingification. Oh God, no....
@sampo You're definitely making me want to give her streams a chance. She seems to play REAL GAMES too, I've lost count of the amount of times I've found a chuuba with a nice gimmick or a great voice but then never watched them because every stream is some gacha game
@druid She's definitely a weird and most likely severely autistic person, I think it's possible it's just a very odd fixation. It's often laggy and buggy and doesn't always work but she's great at mitigating that. Many a good clips have come from the software misinterpreting something
@sampo It's just such COMMITMENT to the bit, the technology must have SOME delay and some awkwardness, yet she deals with it even during frustrating and difficult games. It's hard to think of another reason why a person would do that.
You're right though, you can usually tell and clocking gets easier the more you do it (which is imo why every trans person I know closely has made the journey from "oh god please don't misgender me I'll cry" to "why yes I'm a proud tranny, we're the ancient Aryan shaman caste" or similar lmao
@druid I'm not so sure, that's where my mind goes to first for several reasons but people who have met her don't show any of the usual signs. I know it's not right to say or whatever but usually you can tell from the way people talk about someone.
@sampo@druid Reminds me of the Affiliation status of Amelia(/Dooby) and Chloe, makes me wonder how that will play out, but at least it seems like there's changes in that regard for Hololive.
@druid@sampo Yeah, I don't think it'll be a "still around" but could still be there at some big collabs/events… Kind of like what Gura seems to be doing but likely much more rare. At least it's the kind of stuff I sometimes wished for with Coco, not still streaming but like guesting at few moments quite like an alumni.
@lanodan@sampo Honestly the ambiguity of it makes me happy I was a Niji fan because when OUR talents graduate it's always under a nuclear cloud of drama with a 30 minute parrot4chan video, so it's cut and dry. This "are we aren't we?" would kill me
@druid@sampo Haha yeah, I wouldn't wish to be an Amelia/Chloe fan, at the same time Hololive is pretty much walking in the dark with this.
Which is also why I much prefer the VShojo way, makes it a much more normal agency where people can just leave yet keep their stuff, seems much more healthy to me.