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   Pepijn (pepijn@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 17:03:10 JST Pepijn

   New email footer (in green, bold):

   "Please consider the environment before using AI functionality to reply to this email."

   #work #email #ai

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     Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag: (ryanc@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 18:06:59 JST Ryan Castellucci :nonbinary_flag:

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     • Simon Zerafa

     @Pepijn @simonzerafa "Please consider the environmental, ethical and reputational costs of "AI tools" before using them to "summarize" or reply to this email."

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     Pepijn (pepijn@mastodon.online)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 18:07:00 JST Pepijn

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     • Simon Zerafa

     @simonzerafa If we're finetuning it:

     "Please consider the environmental and ethical costs of so-called AI before using them to reply to this email. Every interaction has an unseen footprint."

     Or the sneaky corporate one I could see the likes of Microsoft and Apple implement:

     "When using AI to reply to this email: Please keep queries concise and relevant to support sustainable AI use."

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     Simon Zerafa (simonzerafa@infosec.exchange)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 18:07:01 JST Simon Zerafa

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     @Pepijn

     I might go with:

     "Please consider the environmental and social impacts before using so called "AI" functions to reply to this email."

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2024 21:03:27 JST Rich Felker

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     @Pepijn Better: "Replying to this with AI affirms your authorization to pay a USD $2000 fee to the recipient to offset climate impact and waste of their time. If you do not include payment with the reply, it will be pursued in small claims court in the jurisdiction of the recipient."

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     Just Another Amy (justanotheramy@aus.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:23:17 JST Just Another Amy

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     @Pepijn
     “Please consider not being disabled before using assistive technology to reply to this email."

     This is the straws all over again.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Dec-2024 20:23:17 JST Rich Felker

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     • Just Another Amy

     @justanotheramy @Pepijn LLMs are not "assistive technology" or an accessibility aid. Please do not go there.

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     Petra van Cronenburg (naturemc@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:31 JST Petra van Cronenburg

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     • Timnit Gebru (she/her)
     • Prof. Emily M. Bender(she/her)
     • Ciara
     • ClaraBlackInk

     @clarablackink They know it probably too well. They want it. I recommend to read about #TESCREAL - a deeply fascist ideology behind many of the tech billionaires.

     For longer info: https://www.dair-institute.org/tescreal/

     or for a quick overview: https://washingtonspectator.org/understanding-tescreal-silicon-valleys-rightward-turn/

     The ideology behind some of the AGI developers: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-acronym-behind-our-wildest-ai-dreams-and-nightmares/

     They are on Mastodon: @emilymbender (I recommend her podcast) + @timnitGebru

     Warning: It's creepy!

     @CiaraNi

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     Petra van Cronenburg (naturemc@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:33 JST Petra van Cronenburg

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     • Ciara
     • ClaraBlackInk

     @clarablackink You're right, it's exhausting like climate communication.

     And you get to the heart of why this marketing works: We are all drilled to consume and this promises us a paradise of consumerism. Worse still, the people behind it are now influencing politics.

     Here in France, we are currently being encouraged to have doctors' consultations recorded for AI training. Crazy! One day, "a lot of medicine could be outsourced to AI bots and ‘relieve’ the burden on doctors". 1/2

     @CiaraNi

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     Petra van Cronenburg (naturemc@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:33 JST Petra van Cronenburg

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     • Ciara
     • ClaraBlackInk

     @clarablackink 2/2 Fortunately, people here are not being completely dumbed down, they are afraid for their data security. They get angry because you could pay nursing staff better or train more doctors for the same money. But how many will join in out of fear?
     I see two scenarios in the future: a completely dumbed-down, passive society or uprisings. - I watch too much scifi ... 😉

     @CiaraNi

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     ClaraBlackInk (clarablackink@writing.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:33 JST ClaraBlackInk

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     • Petra van Cronenburg
     • Ciara

     @NatureMC @CiaraNi I think we're going to have deep knowledge gaps. Which already exist but it feels like a ton of people are willingly giving up their own knowledge and others are willing to gobble up access to real expertise to gatekeep it.

     Which absolutely is dangerous.

     I think this is what is not understood by those looking to profit off of gatekeeping knowledge. Making people stupid takes away from their ability to self regulate and creates deeper resentment towards those who keep it.

     Timnit Gebru (she/her), Rich Felker, Jure Repinc :linux: :kde: and Alecs Ștefănescu [38c3] repeated this.
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     Petra van Cronenburg (naturemc@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:35 JST Petra van Cronenburg

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     • Ciara

     @CiaraNi Oh, I understand! That's like the women of our embroidery club sharing "funny" AI-videos on Whatsapp.

     I think that the best campaigns are us: talking with people. We know them, their level of information and needs.
     I had the best scene with a woman who doesn't use the internet much, has no social media besides Whatsapp where she giggles about AI. She has a health problem, and has to drink much water every day. Last time she laughed loud and wanted to show me some AI crap. Me: 'Do you

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     Petra van Cronenburg (naturemc@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:35 JST Petra van Cronenburg

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     • Ciara

     @CiaraNi know that this stuff costed 2 bottles of drinking water plus energy?'
     She couldn't believe it but was curious enough to listen, why and how.
     It is very important not to devalue or judge people in conversation. They simply don't know. I try to keep the informations easy to understand, imaginable, no numbers, more comparisons.
     I don't believe that campaigns will come, too much money to earn with AI.

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     ClaraBlackInk (clarablackink@writing.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:35 JST ClaraBlackInk

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     • Petra van Cronenburg
     • Ciara

     @NatureMC @CiaraNi It makes sense that the general public doesn't know.

     There's an ad I see sometimes that basically says that AI makes it so you never have to pick two out of three of the: cheaper, faster or better compromise.

     As long as marketing departments are the ones reaching out about AI, the average person is likely to believe that somehow it's innovative and because it's being adopted it must be good.

     Reaching out to people makes a difference, but it's a slow process.

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     Ciara (ciarani@mastodon.green)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:36 JST Ciara

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     • Petra van Cronenburg

     @NatureMC I expressed myself poorly. I'm aware myself and don't use generative AI. 'Have yet to hear anyone in 'real life' talk about the environmental cost' was my clumsy shorthand for: I've yet to hear anyone in a social setting, at work or in my circle mention the environmental cost of #AI. Everyone I know in person loves using AI. They seem unaware of the copyright & environmental issues. They aren't seeking or reading information about it. I think awareness-raising campaigns are needed.

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     Petra van Cronenburg (naturemc@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:37 JST Petra van Cronenburg

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     • Ciara

     @CiaraNi You can read it in the real life news in different countries. I recommend to follow @gerrymcgovern - he always shows such informations.
     @Pepijn

     #followfriday #AI #generativeAI #environment #energy #drinkingWater #water #CO2Emissions #CO2 #trueCosts

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     Pepijn (pepijn@mastodon.online)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:38 JST Pepijn

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     • Ciara

     @CiaraNi Cool, free trip to Stockholm if I win :-)

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     Ciara (ciarani@mastodon.green)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:38 JST Ciara

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     @Pepijn It will be well-deserved, for this neat idea. I have yet to hear anyone in 'real life' talk about the fact that using ChatGPT or other generative AI tools has an environmental cost at all, let alone a high one. I have literally only seen it mentioned online, so anecdotally, I think there's a big need for basic awareness-raising to start with. Everyone is using AI for everything, like it's a magic wand, is my experience so far.

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     Ciara (ciarani@mastodon.green)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:42:39 JST Ciara

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     @Pepijn I am nominating you and your footer and your toot for the Nobel Prize in Geniusness.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 11-Dec-2024 11:57:46 JST Rich Felker

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     • Petra van Cronenburg
     • Ciara
     • ClaraBlackInk

     @clarablackink @NatureMC @CiaraNi That's so stupid because picking "AI" is picking at most 1 out of the 3, probably 0.