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tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 14:11:33 JST tsoifan1997
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 14:11:30 JST 翠星石
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 14:11:31 JST m0xEE
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nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face: (nyanide@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 14:11:32 JST nyanide :nyancat_rainbow::nyancat_body::nyancat_face:
@sysrq @enigmatico let's add a third column where it's pike talking and everything listed is plan 9-and-after bell labs related appliances In conversation permalink -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 14:16:02 JST 翠星石
@m0xee That is a free format that can be encoded and decoded with free software, so there is no problems with it.
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 14:16:03 JST m0xEE
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> webp
Belch! 🤮In conversation permalink -
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You Get Glee (get@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:30:00 JST You Get Glee
@Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee now its fully fixed In conversation permalink Attachments
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:35:47 JST prettygood
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee it "works" alright, it works for the hypermegaglobogiga corporations that control you. Fix your shit 🔧 In conversation permalink -
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:35:48 JST Forest of Enchantment
@get @Suiseiseki @enigmatico @m0xee @nyanide @sysrq The person on the right is a faggot. Use software that works :blobcatcool: In conversation permalink -
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sapphire (sapphire@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:38:08 JST sapphire
@prettygood @Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee shouldn’t have to spend time fixing my tools In conversation permalink -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:38:08 JST prettygood
@sapphire @Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee poor craftsman detected In conversation permalink -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:41:49 JST prettygood
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee I'm not translating all that shit. Pic related, its what you look like. In conversation permalink Attachments
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:41:50 JST Forest of Enchantment
@prettygood @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee GNUtards. Il est bon de savoir que vous ne changerez jamais. :lainlaugh:
Écoutez-moi. Il n'est pas normal de devoir dépanner quotidiennement les fonctions de base d'un système.In conversation permalink -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:42:30 JST prettygood
@get @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee I can pay for it, I choose not to, because I don't need hand-holding. In conversation permalink 翠星石 likes this. -
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You Get Glee (get@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:42:31 JST You Get Glee
@prettygood @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee If you were a good craftsman you would have more than enough money to pay for Red Hat Enterprise Linux + Red Hat Standard Support instead of slumming it with your bootleg pirated linux distros like a jobless neckbeard In conversation permalink Attachments
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:44:40 JST prettygood
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee good, I don't want normal people in my hobby. In conversation permalink -
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:44:41 JST Forest of Enchantment
@prettygood @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee Translation: YOU'RE RETARDED. IT'S NOT NORMAL TO EXPECT THE END USER TO HAVE TO FIX BASIC SHIT LIKE X SERVER AND CUPS. In conversation permalink -
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:47:10 JST Forest of Enchantment
@prettygood @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee Well, you've failed. Every supercomputer in the TOP500 runs Linux. Just not your gayass freetard distro. In conversation permalink -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:47:10 JST prettygood
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee now who is coping? "They don't use your favorite userspace" is not an own. I don't even know what you're trying to say anymore. In conversation permalink -
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You Get Glee (get@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:47:49 JST You Get Glee
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>referring to your computers operating system as your hobby
holy fuck this is such an LIn conversation permalink -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:47:49 JST prettygood
@get @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee I'm not taking this shit from you after you got evriskrarated on my timeline earlier, go get good In conversation permalink -
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prettygood (prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:53:09 JST prettygood
@get @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee I didn't read that thread, I didn't read this thread, I'm not reading your memes either. Don't care In conversation permalink Attachments
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You Get Glee (get@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 15:53:10 JST You Get Glee
@prettygood @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @sapphire @m0xee vriska getting mad because I posted a meme shitting on trannies is not an "evriskraration" lmfao i trolled the hell out of her, you gotta remove the dilator from your bussy rn its messing with your head In conversation permalink -
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You Get Glee (get@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 24-Nov-2024 16:20:03 JST You Get Glee
@Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @enigmatico @m0xee @nyanide @sysrq
>use software that works
hear ya loud and clear, im not gonna use any softwareIn conversation permalink Attachments
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Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:34:57 JST Pissed Hippo
@condret @m0xee @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @enigmatico @get @nyanide @sysrq what distro should I run In conversation permalink -
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:34:58 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@m0xee
distro maintainers don't know what they are doing. for debian at some point they refused so adamantly to update, that we had a "pwn debian r2" challenge, where people could win a price to find the most severe security vuln, so we could pressure debian to update.
debian lost it's justification to exist a decade ago. most opensource software got so stable, that there is no need to hold back patches.
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:34:59 JST m0xEE
@condret
Free software devs are not "licensing out" their stuff — they shouldn't have control over how others use it, nor they should provide support for binaries built with modifications.
End user reports the issue to the package maintainer, who in turn checks if it's a problem with their modifications/configuration or an upstream bug, and acts accordingly — that is how it used to be and I don't see what was wrong with that.@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:34:59 JST m0xEE
@condret
Entrusting the upstream developer with security fixes is a horrible idea: you update the package to get a fix for the new exploit only to find out that UI has changed, or config file format — because it was a good idea that happened to coincide with the security fix, and now you have to waste time on fixing your configs — no, thank you! There are exceptions, but in general… Fuck this! It's like building on quicksand.@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:00 JST m0xEE
@condret
> distros should pack our stuff without modifications
No, just no! I probably won't be able to use half of the stuff I use with such an approach: systemd dependency, musl incompatibilities and so on — all of this has to be patched to work well with the distro's base system.
And there is nothing wrong with back-porting security patches — because I don't want those coming bundled with 5 new bugs or incompatibilities.@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:01 JST m0xEE
@condret
"Hello, I'd like to report a problem: I have this binary that someone else has built for me and it does not work",— WTF is this shit? They won't even be able to tell you how to reproduce the problem even if they tried really hard: they simply don't know what flags the software was built with.
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:01 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@m0xee
distros should pack our stuff without modifications, otherwise we cannot ensure the api works as intended
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:02 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@m0xee
and this is why i completly ignore bugreports from debian and ubuntu users. luckily debian-stable stopped packaging r2, but even debian-unstable still does and it's 2 releases behind. That on would be own is ok, if they didn't patch our code. i will not waste my time checking if a bug was caused by a debian maintainer not know what they are doing.
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:02 JST m0xEE
@condret
That's what you should always be doing, not for Debian, but in general, end users should never report problems upstream, that's what they have their distro's maintainers for — if they decide that it's indeed a problem with software and not their build of it, they report it further upstream 🤷
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:03 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee it's not just that the packages are outdated, debian maintainers have the hybris to patch packages, because they believer they know better than the devs. then you get shit like this https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2008/msg00152.html
or the xscreensaver thing, where debian decided to patch away a warning, that told the user that the installed version of xscreensaver is very old and that they should update
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m0xEE (m0xee@social.librem.one)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:03 JST m0xEE
@condret
> debian maintainers have the hybris to patch packages, because they believer they know better than the devs
And that is a good thing, because software developers often assume that you want new features when you only want security updates. Updating is fine and dandy until things start breaking as a result. Backporting security fixes if good, I wish it was still more common, sadly it isn't anymore.@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:04 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee debian based distros are awful, apt is slow as fuck, packages are outdated, and these distros usually come with a shit ton of bloat that nobody needs.
I've never used redhat and i never will. there once was a guy in radare2, who works at redhat. He left the project in 2019, everything he did was awful, we're still stumbling over shitty code that he committed, that is causing problems today. I won't use a distro from a company who hired this guy.In conversation permalink -
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:04 JST Forest of Enchantment
@condret @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee "Oh noes, my repo only has the latest stable version of a program!" Isn't a serious complaint. It's an intentional design by the Debian team for a good reason. And I've had far more issues with Pacman than Apt. In conversation permalink -
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:05 JST Forest of Enchantment
@condret @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee Why? In conversation permalink -
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Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:06 JST Forest of Enchantment
@sysrq @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @enigmatico @m0xee I'm sorry, but it appears that your message isn't federating properly because you're using a gay OS like Gentoo or Arch. Have you tried being normal and using an OS like Redhat or Ubuntu? In conversation permalink -
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:06 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee you are computationally retarded, if you seriously recommend redhat or übüntü. In conversation permalink -
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tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:35:07 JST tsoifan1997
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Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming (condret@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 25-Nov-2024 04:40:55 JST Hildegunst von Mythenmetz of programming
@sun @Forestofenchantment @Suiseiseki @enigmatico @get @m0xee @nyanide @sysrq i enjoy using arch for 12 years now. i've heard people who don't like systemd, prefer to use alpine. If you like to tinker, try bedrock. if you're a free software radical, maybe give parabola a try. In conversation permalink Pissed Hippo likes this.
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