I can't help wanting JUST ONCE to read a novel whereby the dragon riders are sent to invade a kingdom in another universe only there's been a fuck-up and the locals have got NASAMS-3 air defense missile batteries https://c.im/@puf/113515885912141411
@cstross that's be the rather cursed anime GATE, which is about how awesome the JSDF would be at war and also about this one guy who just constantly picks up girls from long-lived species who look like they're fourteen
@demi I had to research this a decade ago (for a novel with dragons v. Eurofighters): turns out modern IR seekers aren't simple heat seekers, they're actually IR cameras with image recognition firmware and enough brains to know where to detonate the warhead for maximum impact.
@cstross Air defense systems are usually radar or thermal guided, and I suspect dragons+rider doesn’t carry enough metal to trigger the radar, and doesn’t have a high enough heat sig to be considered a missile.
there’s Stuart Slade’s *Salvation War* series (LiveJournal plus US-military-fuck-yeah writing) – God declares Armageddon, Hell invades Earth, but technology has advanced just a little in the last couple millennia
@cstross there's something along those lines in Mary Gentle's 'Grunts': https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunts! In that one, a troop of orcs steal weapons from a cursed dragon's hoard - the curse is that they turn into whatever they steal. Unfortunately for their high fantasy world, the dragon was pan-dimensional and hoarded a bunch of US Army weaponry... So think high elves vs orcs armed with rocket launchers and attack helicopters acting like Marines.
@cstross It's an anime called "Gate" from 2017. It's on hulu in the states. Quite good actually, if you don't mind the barely sublimated cultural assertions bobbing just below the surface.
@landley On a related WTF note, there's the (current-ish) Anime series coming out of Japan, "Suicide Squad Isekai". Which contains EXACTLY what it says on the tin ...
@cstross@blades Hmm, I still remember a conversation with you and Mary at a con sometime in the 90s about sysadmining as the basis of a fantasy quest. I definitely get the feeling that some of those concepts worked their way into the Laundry Files.