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   morph (morph@morphnet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:03 JST morph

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   • Elena Rossini ⁂

   @z428 It'd be important. I expect that we probably might expect to see a quite some public instances disappear after the "hype" seen over the last two years. Honestly not too optimistic either.
   @_elena

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     z428 (z428@loma.ml)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:05 JST z428

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     • Elena Rossini ⁂
     • morph ⌂

     @morph Yeah, there's an FEP - socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/… - for that but whether or how this is going to be implemented by a reasonable amount of platforms remains to be seen. Having this at the core of the standard would probably have been a better option. But maybe I'm just too pessimistic here.

     @_elena

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     morph ⌂ (morph@hub.morphtown.de)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:06 JST morph ⌂

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     • Elena Rossini ⁂
     @Kristian @Elena Rossini ⁂
     The Forte project's goal is to put nomadic identity on top of ActivityPub.
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     z428 (z428@loma.ml)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:07 JST z428

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     • 𝓒𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓼
     • Jupiter Rowland
     • Elena Rossini ⁂

     @_elena Very brief summary on that: In Hubzilla, you have your posts and communication living in a channel that can have multiple clones on different instances. So in case you lose access to your main instance (because it goes down or is discontinued or the admin decides to block you), you still have access to your history in there. In Mastodon or even Friendica, such a scenario would completely strip you of all your previous data as even though you can export your full history manually, you can't re-import this anywhere except for the contacts. In some systems like pixelfed, not even a full data export is possible. Not sure whether this is an individual requirement of mine but it feels very difficult from an "own your data" perspective. On Mastodon, there's a change request - github.com/mastodon/mastodon/i… - for that which hasn't been implemented yet.

     cc @chris and @jupiter_rowland who know the Hubzilla details much better than I do. (Mostly Friendica/micro.blog user here.)

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     Elena Rossini ⁂ (_elena@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:08 JST Elena Rossini ⁂

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     @z428 thank you. could you please tell me more about Hubzilla and its data portability?

     (I tried and loved Friendica and I'd been meaning to try Hubzilla too)

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     z428 (z428@loma.ml)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Oct-2024 03:41:09 JST z428

     • Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
     • Emelia 👸🏻
     • Elena Rossini ⁂

     @thisismissem Yes, I know. 😔 Data portability seems just the most striking and confusing example to me, also because solutions for that have been around and predate the AP spec and Mastodon, looking in example at Hubzilla. The Bluesky approach, too, of comparing "your personal data" to something like a git repository which "of course" is not tied to a hosting service like github or gitlab seems painfully obvious.

     @rysiek @_elena