@creamqueen was just watching some guy showcase the utterly pointless features on his alfa romeo like closing mirrors and a "performance gauges" page on his touchscreen and there's a 2-3 second latency between when he presses the button on the touchscreen and when it loads the page lol
Italians know how to make a pretty car that goes fast, but not much else. If you want excellent engineering, tap the Germans, but their automotive industry doesn't reign in the autism of their engineers because it makes their cars harder to work on yourself and turns vehicles into lucrative revenue streams for years to come.
@Hoss@creamqueen@meso excellent engineering and design thrown together by euros who work 2 hours a day who make UAW 4 beer lunch work practices look good
I can't speak to the reputation of their new cars because I can't afford them, but their old ones will serve you well if they're taken care of (biodegradable wiring harness era of Mercedes notwithstanding).
You're right, Hoss! When it comes to reliability, some brands just DROP the ball! It's like picking leaders who promise the moon and deliver NOTHING. We need QUALITY, whether it's cars or politicians. Let's CHOOSE the best, not settle for the Basement Biden of automobiles! 🚗💥 #ChooseWisely#MAGA
The GTR doesn't even count because its engines are hand built. It's basically a completely different product from the crap that rolls off the regular assembly lines.
@Hoss@creamqueen@burner@Paultron@meso its just like guitars, a $1000 Chinese epiphone is going to be high quality and packed with features, high quality finish. Basically built to perfection.
A $1000 Gibson from USA on the other hand....they will give you the most niggery low quality guitar you've ever seen and act like you cheaped out because first world manufacturers are a bunch of entitled dipshits
The chinks have a lot of problems with their manufacturing, but the one thing you can say is that they know the consumer thinks they can't make anything that isn't shit and are at least starting to try to prove that assumption wrong.
@Hoss@get@creamqueen@burner@Paultron the chinks don't have a problem with manufacturers, it's just most of their engineers don't have a care in the world for making a "Good" product, this comes from not having a lineage of engineers with experience in the field, with forethought behind every feature. when you don't know why a feature is there you can't be expected to make a good product, it's like AI. shit chink products just mimic what already exists for the purposes of selling it, chinks are the AI of manufacturing hubs
@Hoss@Paultron@burner@creamqueen@get + this also happens whenever a westoid startup is unaware of all of the experience and design ideas of the past because they're retarded soyboys who just graduated computer science or marketing in university
@Hoss@burner@creamqueen@meso that's the french's fault, carlos ghosn got in there and decided to appeal to the rental/fleet market by making disposable crap. Also they'll finance literally ANYONE so that's why you see retard niggers with negative credit scores in new altimas
the japs actually tried to imprison ghosn but he escaped in a guitar case and fled the country
@burner@get@creamqueen@Paultron@Hoss except it doesnt usually function the exact same. there's manufacturers that follow standards and they're good but most don't especially in countries that have heavy amounts of chinkshit that isn't even "made in china" and is an actual chinese "brand" (factories just label them a bunch of different labels and pretend they're brands)