@Hoss @get @creamqueen @burner @Paultron the chinks don't have a problem with manufacturers, it's just most of their engineers don't have a care in the world for making a "Good" product, this comes from not having a lineage of engineers with experience in the field, with forethought behind every feature. when you don't know why a feature is there you can't be expected to make a good product, it's like AI. shit chink products just mimic what already exists for the purposes of selling it, chinks are the AI of manufacturing hubs