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I want to see a woodworking YouTuber who does everything with off the shelf dimensional lumber, mostly 2x4s. That's cool that you made a custom saw table that can fold into a tiny cube using gears made of wood, but how about doing that with wood that isn't more expensive than metal per cubic foot?
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>HERE'S MY $2,000 DUST COLLECTOR KIT FOR MY SMALL WORKSHOP (A MERE 40x80 FEET!!)
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CHALLENGE: Build a shed using 2x4s ONLY. Pallet delivery from orange or blue big box store, blind so you have to deal with the crooked boards and knots everywhere.
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Imagine doing tongue and groove with 2x4s from Lowe's. There's be so much tension on the boards it would be like a spring loaded on popsicle stick build. Your roof would warp and you'd just say oh well and live with it or try and seal it with sawdust and wood glue.
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@d0c40r0 Did it warp like I'm saying or was it pressure treated?
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I did this with a deck hh
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@BowsacNoodle > I want to see a woodworking YouTuber who does everything with off the shelf dimensional lumber, mostly 2x4s.
I build “Japanese” sawhorses this way.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica Do you do the hole and shim mortis thing?
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@BowsacNoodle That's why I use a local lumber yard the box stores wood is pure garbage
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@HarryNuggets The local lumber yard isn't even more expensive. Unfortunately a bunch of them closed up in the last twenty years because of suburban Orange, Blue, and Green stores.
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@HarryNuggets @d0c40r0 Yellow pine should be illegal to sell without pressure treating.
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@d0c40r0 @BowsacNoodle Wait you used 2×4s for a deck? You didn't use yellow pine did you?
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@BowsacNoodle Yeah I have to drive 45 minutes each way to get to the place I use.... it's a pain but if I need more than a couple boards it's worth it
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@HarryNuggets My local ones are about 30 away now, but same. I will check Home Depot for cull though and sometimes I end up getting a ton of cheap 2x lumber for 50-75% off with almost nothing wrong. I bought a bunch that just had one crappy edge that I didn't care about and used it to build shelves.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica I love building things without nails. I got into mortis and tenon and dowel work a few years ago. I usually use dados if I want to be fancy, but lap joints are easier and work well for screws or bolts.
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@BowsacNoodle You know it.
I say it like it’s a thing I do all the time but I’ve done a half-dozen, and haven’t landed on something really specific and repeatable. Still, every one I’ve built has held up perfectly fine for a couple years, in their various tasks.
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Thinking about the time I built a new handle for my Land mower using yellow pine and it fell apart after I drilled into it. Worst wood ever.
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@HarryNuggets @KingOfWhiteAmerica I wish man. This is all hobbyist and DIY stuff for me and I don't think I can justify that kind of budget. I don't even have a Kraig jig :bball1: but I like dowels and they're stronger (cope).
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@BowsacNoodle @KingOfWhiteAmerica Have you broke down and got a festool domino yet?
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@BowsacNoodle I made a coffee table with it and it‘s a miserable experience without professional grade planers and jointers. The wood is absolute trash. Ok for a rustic piece or something but if you want quality furniture pay for good wood
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@John_Darksoul Yeah I know. I just wish we had good wood that wasn't stupidly expensive. Like can we get a movement to get cedars growing in America specifically for woodworking? I'm also down for exiling or forced labor punishments of hippies who complain about wood grown for commercial use being chopped down.
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@BowsacNoodle @HarryNuggets I’ve been intrigued by those JessEm jigs, and/or the DowelMax jig, and they’re often highly recommended by people that spent the money on them. Dowels are awesome and philosophically pleasing.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets Based DowelMaxxing jigpilled
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @BowsacNoodle Yeah I have a cheapy dowel jig I think from Lowe's I use from time to time
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@BowsacNoodle @KingOfWhiteAmerica I used dowels on this jewelry box/display table a while back
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@HarryNuggets @KingOfWhiteAmerica Those are some gnarly feet 🤯
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@HarryNuggets @BowsacNoodle My dad and my great-grandpa did a lot of angled dowel joints on a drill press; and I honestly haven’t figured out how he pulled it off. I don’t remember seeing big intricate clamp setups or anything - so when I try to apply the idea myself I’m in over my head 😝
Dowel jigs just kind of solve a lot of those problems.
Japanese joints are mind-blowing. Beyond the sawhorses I’ve not invested in the level of study to pull them off, yet. When the kids are older 🥂
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That is wild. And very cool
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets Plunge router is my go to solution. For weird angles I just use mitered shims I make for jigs.
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@HarryNuggets @BowsacNoodle Yeah nothing I’ve built comes close to that level of beauty. That’s top-tier; people should pay you just for knowing how.
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@HarryNuggets @KingOfWhiteAmerica I understand that. I feel that way about engine work even though most of the time things are rusty, oily, or both and you bust knuckles getting things open.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @BowsacNoodle Seriously though woodworking is kind of a Zen thing I find it relaxing
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@BowsacNoodle @HarryNuggets That’s imminently reasonable. I feel like they had little jigs bolted to the drill press table, like as guides - and just steady hands and steel nerves to knock them out. They were generally better at woodworking than me 😂
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets Maybe they had a technique down, but you can be awesome by working smart. When I realized how useful the carpenter's square was is when I upped my game a bit. I still suck, but I can build things that are sturdy and fix things that are broken. Making things that look beautiful is a special skill, and I'm getting better at hiding my oopsies.
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@BowsacNoodle @HarryNuggets Good opportunity to use the wrench react 😁
The only way I can even work on engines is to just go into the zone - no time crunch, no rush, otherwise I rapidly get consumed by frustrated rage 😔
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets I work on a computer or in meetings all day. Having a chance to physically do something is cathartic. Seeing the fruits of my labor even more so. This lawnmower was on the side of the road because it was broken? Now it works perfectly after I rigged up a carb choke link assembly using a fishing lure wire.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @BowsacNoodle I know what you mean woodworking makes me slow down take a deep breath and think the steps through
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@HarryNuggets @KingOfWhiteAmerica "I put this piece of poplar on the front to make the shelves have a thick front edge with clean look"
>(I screwed up my cut and the grain looked like crap. No amount of wood filler or caulk can fix this. Mistakes were made and I cannot atone for them.)
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@BowsacNoodle @KingOfWhiteAmerica The creativity to fix fuckups is the sign of a good carpenter
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets I like engine stuff because it's like working on a computer. Usually you can fix stuff through diagnostics and a lot of times that means you read between the lines on things. Unfortunately computers are making things much more annoying for DIY. You can still diagnose things by looking at simple obd2 reads for fuel trim and stuff to find hidden leaks or oddball misfires, but again you'll see turbos and computers compensating
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@HarryNuggets @BowsacNoodle Oh man, woodcraft is a lot more agreeable to me than, say, changing out timing-belts. I have an abiding respect for guys that like doing that sort of thing. Chisels and their proper use are fun to think about on their own merits.
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@BowsacNoodle @HarryNuggets This is why we’ll never die; I’m in the very best sort of company whenever I log in.
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@KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets My favorite redneck repairs:
>Primer bulb cracked causing bad vacuum leak on mower. Engine stalling repeatedly and hard to start, low power from running super rich. Fixed with the fingertip of a nitrile glove and two small rubber bands. Ordered new carb from slow boat from China. Fix held for three months before I swapped new carb.
>motorcycle carburetor valve tore. Flooding friends engine. Repaired with nitrile glove and gorilla glue. Worked at 12k RPM+
>Manifold mount bolt broke. Welded on a turny tip so we could torque it while we waited for a new one via mail. Worked fine.
>Running CLR through heater core backwards to salvage a "totally destroyed and irreparable" clog and save $2,500.
>Changing a timing belt tensioner in an interference engine without changing the timing belt using a broomstick to wedge the belt in place. Saved $1,500 in labor.
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screws
can’t tell if it’s warped cus it’s only been a couple weeks hh
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@BowsacNoodle @KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets >Changing a timing belt tensioner in an interference engine without changing the timing belt using a broomstick to wedge the belt in place. Saved $1,500 in labor.
what why would you do that just replace the belt anyway they're like $50
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@poastoak @KingOfWhiteAmerica @HarryNuggets Belt was 16k miles and tensioner was 15 months old. Changing the belt meant I had to take way more stuff off and risk borking the engine if I did it wrong.