> n surely you also agree defeating covid necessitates total border lockdowns around the world
Maybe not total but yeah, generally international borders should be shut to all traffic save maybe some doctors and material
> and zero-tolerance policy for uncontrolled mass migration.
Absolutely. There is no excuse for any migration right now, migrants should be shot at the border.
Generally viruses not magic - and it has routes of transmission that can be known and understood. In the UK about a third of all transmission happens at soccer games. Here something similar is going to be in * hospitals, rider games and concerts shutting down those things alone will cut transmission substantially.
add in vaccination drives, border closures quality masking in hospitals and masking in general, and *public awareness of the problem* and you can drive transmission much much lower -- low enough for contact tracing to work.
Let's assume you're right. If it's true that only total vax compliance can eradicate the virus, then surely you also agree defeating covid necessitates total border lockdowns around the world and zero-tolerance policies for uncontrolled mass migration. Are we in agreement on this?
@Hoss@supersid333@1goodtern@Dudebro@Forgetful_Gynn@catmanmancat@gentoobro A 'vax and relax' stance isn't enough -- the vaccine has saved plenty of lives in sweden, but as long as that's the only policy they have it's going to be continually undermined by vaccine-esscape variants entering the country. The vaccine bought time for sweden and other nations to actually deal with the problem which countries like sweden have squandered
Now they reap the consequences - long term health problems for 100,000s of people, waves of death back to the worst of the pandemic and more - a society with broken immune systems waiting for opportunistic infections to wipe large numbers of people out
Using Sweden as an example almost makes me want to disagree out of principle, but this was the one thing they did right after making literally the worst choices possible for two decades straight.
@jeffcliff@Dudebro@catmanmancat@Hoss@gentoobro Oh no, I'm so afraid. Lockdown rules were stupid and counter productive, humans are social creatures in general and locking people in their own homes has and will continue to have horrible long lasting effects on people. Especially on younger ones where a year or two is a much more substantial portion of their lived life. We've all been socially and medically experimented on as an entire society and it will undoubtedly fast track the demise of our country, as unfortunate as it may be.
@Hoss@Dudebro@catmanmancat@gentoobro@jeffcliff Certainly doesn't help that doing it genuinely stunted the development of younger children. We probably won't feel that bump for another 10-15 years but it's certainly something that happened.
@supersid333@Dudebro@catmanmancat@Hoss@gentoobro Uh no, fuck you. COVID is what stunts and CONTINUES to stunt the development of younger children. You don't get to let a brain damaging virus rip repeatedly through a population of children with no consequences.
Much like at many billion-dollar corporations today, there were a lot of people who weren't really doing a whole lot of anything at their "jobs" in the Soviet Union.
Lots of the modern mid-level bloat came from Job Justification. Can't justify your six figure manager job if you're not managing people. Can't justify making more than the other manager if you don't manage more people than him. Can't justify handing out a promotion if there aren't more people being managed than before.
In more normal times, budgets limited this sort of chicanery. For the past few decades, Wall Street, VCs, and the Fed have been pumping endless free money into big corporations for various unusual and unsustainable reasons. It's starting to unravel now though. Grab some popcorn.
Must communist countries by my take while not fascist yet must rely on extreme nationalism to keep society from crumbling. If you dont have your nation, then what the fuck keeps you going to work?
Chink social media sites demonstrate this reality quite handily, where the moderation environment has little concern for cracking down on "bigotry" and is primarily interested in policing anti-state sentiment.