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   Mark Shane Hayden (msh@coales.co)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 06:57:21 JST Mark Shane Hayden

   So it seems that trolls of the Trumpist frozen peach variety, mostly those who set up their own Pleroma instances when Parler got taken down, are undertaking a semi-coordinated effort to target journalists who sign up on Mastodon for a couple of reasons...

   * Trump has taught them that professional journalism and critical thinking are elitist and bad so lets harass them until they go away

   * they are trying to prove some sort of point that this place can be just as toxic as their beloved Frozen Peach in Chief's microblogging site

   If you are a journo and you get dogpiled by trolls DO NOT ENGAGE with them at all! Immediately:

   1. REPORT them to your instance mods, THEN
   2. Block them

   Step 1 is very important! This isn't twitter or facebook...mods will take swift action, and if they don't you can migrate instances to better moderated ones...

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 06:57:20 JST djsumdog

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     I don't think you've followed any of the threads. Also .. wow ... don't engage? How about be nice and have a discussion. You should absolutely engage. That's how society moves forward and gets better. These newbies won't engage because they have no argument.
     
     No one is trolling or dogpiling them. Have you read some of the shit they've said? They come onto fedi, understand nothing about it, think it's some new community; "The Mastodon Network" .. immediately start talking about all the "Fascists" ... and here you are telling them to cry to mommie and report/block them? You realize most of those reports go to the instance admins of single user instances?
     
     You are creating a bigger echo chamber. Everything you said in insane and part of the entirely problem of, not only the Fedi, but the way the Internet and society is going in general. You are encouraging echo chambers and your "frozen peach" alt-left dog whistle shows you have no idea how to challenge your own views or have positive constructive conversation with people you disagree with.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 07:34:51 JST djsumdog

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     If every instance is upset with you, and our posts are literally getting more boosts and reactions than we've ever had before in weeks or months, have you ever, just for a moment, considered that maybe, just maybe .... you're the one barging in here like an entitled bull and you're reading the room wrong; like a comedian who doesn't know his audience .. like a spoiled child insisting on his Burger King crown?
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     Mark Shane Hayden (msh@coales.co)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 07:34:57 JST Mark Shane Hayden

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     • Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer:

     @twipped the number of instances is in the dozens at this point. I will compile a list when the dust settles. In the meantime my blocklist is already public in the "about" pages of my instance.

     I do NOT advocate for admins to blindly implement blocklists passed around the fedi. Every community has differing standards. Admins, please take a little extra time to have a quick look at each to make sure they make sense to block for you.

     That said, they are all very outrageous so it should only take a minute to confirm they are toxic for any reasonable person.

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     Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer: (twipped@twipped.social)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 07:35:01 JST Jocelynephiliac :reclaimer:

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     @msh Are they coming from any specific instances?

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     penis-chan (penis-chan@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 10:45:03 JST penis-chan

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     @msh @msh >Trump has taught them that professional journalism and critical thinking are elitist and bad
     
     Actually, journos are more likely to teach people that critical thinking is bad.
     Stop Thinking!.jpg
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     penis-chan (penis-chan@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 07-Nov-2022 13:40:09 JST penis-chan

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     • penis-chan
     @msh @msh Journalists are also confirmed subhumans, as documented by scientific studies.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:04:48 JST Alex Gleason

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     • djsumdog
     • Strypey
     • JC Brand
     You make journalists sound so powerful, but their job isn't that hard. A coder has more power, especially on the Fediverse.
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     JC Brand (jcbrand@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:04:49 JST JC Brand

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     • djsumdog
     • Strypey

     @strypey @djsumdog @msh

     I feel a bit sorry for the journos.

     That said, if you think this is somehow just about Trump, it just shows the limitations of your own understanding.

     Trump tapped into an existing mistrust of corporate media, he didn't create it.

     Journalists are dangerous. They dox people, they misrepresent and propagandize.

     They carry water for the military industrial complex, security state, big pharma etc.

     They are also the cause of a lot of the toxicity on Twitter.

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     Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:04:52 JST Strypey

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     • djsumdog

     @djsumdog
     > No one is trolling or dogpiling them

     I could have shown you an example of just that, but the person who was feeding the trolls and getting dogpiled for it has deleted their post. So now I can't find it. One big downside of the segmentation of the 'verse, and the weird prohibition on archiving of public posts.

     It's hard to ...

     > have positive constructive conversation with people you disagree with.

     When there are dozens of them relentlessly screaming at you.

     @msh

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     @polarisera reposted your post (polarisera@spinster.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:19:15 JST @polarisera reposted your post

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     • Alex Gleason
     @alex Journalist in other countries die investigating corruption in government. American journalist investigate those who say there is corruption in government and give themselves awards for suppressing speech. Journalists are part of the BIG LIE.
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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:19:15 JST Alex Gleason

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     • @polarisera reposted your post
     That may be true about journalists as a whole, but I wouldn't tell an individual journalist to kill herself.
     
     I believe there is such a thing as a "good cop." In fact the people who don't are usually extreme leftists. In fact this whole thing about grouping people together by identity and then saying they "need to apologize" for the sins of their people reeks of critical race theory.
     
     This is just some of the hypocrisy I've seen in the discussion about journalists.
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     admin (admin@mastodon.tech)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:21:08 JST admin

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     • @polarisera reposted your post

     Thank you Alex ✅️

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:31:09 JST Alex Gleason

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     • @polarisera reposted your post
     So called "good cops" have a different philosophy about how change happens. They're wrong, but being wrong doesn't make you bad.
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     nash's schizo daughter :ancapchanlol: (7@collapsitarian.io)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:31:10 JST nash's schizo daughter :ancapchanlol:

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     • @polarisera reposted your post

     @alex @polarisera There’s plenty of hatred for cops on the right, but it doesn’t reveal itself in complaints about cops – it reveals itself in the willingness to take to vigilantism over calling the cops.

     That said, I disagree that there is such thing as a “good cop” that has not removed the uniform, or a “good journalist” that hasn’t put down the camera/phone.

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:37:34 JST Alex Gleason

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     • dia
     • pyrate
     Idk as I saw it happen it just looked more like hitting a confused dog.
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     dia (dia@kurosawa.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:37:44 JST dia

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     • pyrate
     this. journalists generally aren't held accountable for anything they publish, so the thought of making them suffer solely for being a journalist becomes attractive. violence is the great equalizer.
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     pyrate (pyrate@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:37:45 JST pyrate

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     • @polarisera reposted your post
     @alex @polarisera I'm conflicted, I no longer trust media sources of any variety - everything I weigh and exercise patience if action is required.
     
     In the case of the TOTAL JOURNO DEATH meme - I see it as a reactionary sense of betrayal. The press gets to exercise free speech, character assassination and so on while legitimate dissidents take it on the face again and again.
     
     Also, almost every major media entity is solely owned and operated by jews. Culpable for dishonest practices, lying by omission or being actively trying to censor legitimate problems. I.e. vaccine complications, don't talk about those because this News segment was sponsored by PFIZER.
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     dia (dia@kurosawa.moe)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Nov-2022 23:59:10 JST dia

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     • @polarisera reposted your post
     • pyrate
     confused dog mode is when they're most vulnerable!
     
     honestly though, internet discourse has gotten really fucked up. i'd like to be nicer- and i'd like to think i'm nice to the people who reciprocate- but honestly i don't think many people share the same sentiment. all i wanted to do was play video games, man
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