Miah Johnson
Remember kids:
IRC is free.
IRC is a open standard.
You can run your own IRC server.
IRC doesn't collect data on you and sell it.
You can still moderate your channels via invite, voice, and ban modes.
You can run a server on a 486.
IRC doesn't try to up sell you on "nitro".
IRC doesn't need to make money to make some VC happy.
SuperDicq
@miah@hachyderm.io I think these are the biggest issues for normies to adopt IRC:
* There is no message history unless you run a bouncer.
* All clients kinda suck and are not up to modern standards, for example most have a lack of even multimedia support and the ability to show link previews using meta tags.
* In order to share files via IRC you would need to upload them to some sort of file hosting service instead of just sharing them directly. (Yes, I know XDCC exists but that doesn't work if you're behind any sort of NAT).
Miah Johnson
@SuperDicq message history isn't a requirement though. Do you get upset that you missed a discussion your friends had when you weren't present? Upset that some folks at your local hangout had a discussion about "whatever" while you weren't there?
Maybe in some instances history is useful, but its certainly not a requirement and if it is there are multiple ways to solve it.
Clients could be better sure, good thing we have 'open source' and 'patches accepted'.
SuperDicq
@miah@hachyderm.io I mean I do get the nostalgia for online chats being more of a "place you visit and experience while you are there" instead of a "thing that's always going on that you catch up on" like it is nowadays.
But I don't think that is appealing to most people nowadays. Also this form of communication is very incompatible with smartphones spamming the entire channel with connect/disconnect while switching between networks and such.
SuperDicq
@miah@hachyderm.io I'm nostalgic for IRC as well and I have a lot good memories of it. But I understand why it is a niche nowadays and how it does not live up standard usecases of today.
There are many other free chat protocols that fit modern day usecase much better such as matrix.
Miah Johnson
@SuperDicq `/ignore JOINS QUITS PARTS` stops the mobile users spam.
SuperDicq
@miah@hachyderm.io Yes, but then you wouldn't know if the person you're talking is still there.
SuperDicq
@meso@netzsphaere.xyz @miah@hachyderm.io I mean they don't suck for powerusers I agree, but I don't think I can ask my grandmother to install irssi to talk to me.
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meso [netzsphaere era]
翠星石
SuperDicq
@a1ba@suya.place @liskin@genserver.social @miah@hachyderm.io Your job runs Matrix? You should feel lucky about that because that's actually super based compared to most companies that do their internal communication using proprietary shit like Slack and MS Teams.
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Tomáš Janoušek
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Fish of Rage
SuperDicq
@sun@shitposter.world @a1ba@suya.place @liskin@genserver.social Discord really is just MS Teams with gamer cringe marketing on top I say.
Fish of Rage
SuperDicq
@sun@shitposter.world @a1ba@suya.place @liskin@genserver.social In my opinion they are both a piece of proprietary shit, one just has intact pieces of corn inside of it.
Fish of Rage
SuperDicq
@sun@shitposter.world @a1ba@suya.place @liskin@genserver.social Software that spies on you (aka does not what you want) is not considered "minimally-usable" in my book.
Hoss Delgado
Tomáš Janoušek
Fish of Rage
Tomáš Janoušek
SuperDicq
@Pawlicker@bae.st @Tony@clew.lol @liskin@genserver.social @Hoss@shitpost.cloud @sun@shitposter.world @a1ba@suya.place I don't understand what that means. They are both proprietary software that does chat and voice chat. How does one use "Teams like Discord" as 90% of their feature set already overlaps
PC-9801 Enjoyer
Mr. Bacon
翠星石
Martin :verified:
@miah but mirc still tries to get money? 🤔
SuperDicq
@Pawlicker@bae.st @Hoss@shitpost.cloud @a1ba@suya.place @Tony@clew.lol @liskin@genserver.social @sun@shitposter.world Do you post porn on your company's Teams?
PC-9801 Enjoyer
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