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   Peter Tribble (ptribble@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:16:42 JST Peter Tribble

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   @josephholsten @apicultor @q66 @wyatt8740 @Okanogen @dashdsrdash @jnpn @ariadne @bremner

   One thing about SMF was that if you wanted to manage a service the old SysV way, then it still worked essentially as before. The one breaking change in SMF, really, was replacing inetd, and that part had a few rough edges early on.

   (An area of unhappiness with SMF was using XML as a user interface.)

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     : j@fabrica:~/src; :t_blink: (josephholsten@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:16:43 JST : j@fabrica:~/src; :t_blink:

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     • okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin
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     • jnpn

     @apicultor @q66 @wyatt8740 @Okanogen @dashdsrdash @jnpn @ariadne @bremner Hell, even illumos & macOS have jettisoned SysV init without making everyone furious.

     Possibly because smf & launchd have well defined boundaries that haven’t grown continuously.

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     Apicultor 🐝 (apicultor@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:16:44 JST Apicultor 🐝

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     • okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin
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     @q66 @wyatt8740 @Okanogen @dashdsrdash @jnpn @ariadne @bremner

     >have you been to the devuan forums? if not i suggest taking a look

     I haven't, but it sure looks like #voidlinux runs a tight ship.

     #FreeBSD seems to be doing great without systemd too.

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     q66 (q66@blahaj.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2024 04:16:45 JST q66

     • okanogen TheEnemyFromWithin
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     • David Bremner
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     • jnpn

     @wyatt8740 @Okanogen @dashdsrdash @jnpn @apicultor @ariadne @bremner this is super funny to me because

     1) have you been to the devuan forums? if not i suggest taking a look
     2) ftr i strongly dislike systemd and am actively driving efforts to have properly portable session tracking and the likes without nasty and deficient workarounds like elogind

     any accusation against me that i'm a part of some kind of ibm conspiracy is both hilarious and sad