@LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist yeah, up to a certain point, retard
beyond that certain point, they get very pissy and litigious
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:22 JST 
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:20 JST 
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@TrevorGoodchild @Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist you are seeing a lot more doctors do the "bespoke" arrangement where you basically pay them a retainer.
The tricky part for now is that medical facilities are multi-million dollar affairs which for things like heart surgeries, needed.
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:21 JST 
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@Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Yep. They WANT all docs as hospital employees. They want them dependent on that paycheck.
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Shadowman311 (shadowman311@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:21 JST 
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@TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist In the next few decades you're going to have a cottage industry of unlicensed but completely competently trained medical doctors taking house calls for White families who can't wait for years to see a doctor in what will become heavily militarized and over bloated hospital complexes. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:21 JST
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@Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist I may, uh, have thought long and hard about this exact scenario.
Purely hypothetically, of course.
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:22 JST
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@VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist What will happen in the US eventually will be far worse:
1. Non-hospital employed doctors will stop taking ER call. This will be particularly bad in the case of eye, hand, head and spine trauma. All trauma surgeons are hospital employees so niggers with chest or abdominal gunshots will still do OK for now
2. Senior docs will retire faster than they already are. Junior ones will seek hospital employment. No more cushy private clinic visits. You're going to the DMV.
3. Those who stay in private practice will simply ask for cash fees up front if you want to be seen. It will be called an 'administrative fee' and be applied on top of your insurance copay. Scheduling any kind of elective surgery? Same.
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Shadowman311 (shadowman311@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:21:22 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist I also fully expect ZOG to use the dwindling medical industry to institute racial equity policies (Whitey doesn't get medical treatment period) and then significantly crack down on doctors who don't follow suit. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:28:35 JST
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@sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Yeah you're not going to get a complex vascular bypass or an open craniotomy done in the back of some van (yet?). What will happen, and is already happening, is a move to 'surgi-centers' where all the work done is bread and butter, minor elective stuff. Of course, these will not be attached to a hospital or an ER. For clinic work it will simply be concierge type medicine. House calls may even come back into vogue.
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:29:50 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist wonder if you could make an acceptable mobile OR with an RV. I know the military has field hospital stuff that is similar. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 03:32:17 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist the stuff I was thinking specifically in terms of "brutal hours long surgery" is microsurgery for reconstructive surgery, and then I was wondering "does the military do that stuff?" not sure. -
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:55 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps pro tip for frens: make frens with a competent White doctor, ideally make frens with a couple of them, and stick to them like glue
if you are capable of doing things for them, they will do things for you (like teleport you through reams of red tape when it matters)
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:56 JST
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@dissidentsoaps @VaxxSabbath I sadly anticipate this problem to get worse as Medicare expenditures fall under tighter scrutiny, and even worse when (competent) MDs simply start opting out of taking it entirely (ask Medicaid or Obongocare patients how easy it is for them to find a doctor willing to see them) Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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Dissident Soaps (dissidentsoaps@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:57 JST 
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@TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist This is now a broader problem with concierge medicine and Medicare. Because Medicare has some means testing, concierge medicine can put you on the wrong side of the law (as the patient.) -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:58 JST
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@VaxxSabbath @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist While I put nothing past our chosenite adversaries labeling concierge medicine practitioners as 'unregulated insurers' seems to be a bit of a stretch, given that said practitioners are themselves covered via malpractice insurance paid for out of pocket. Additionally, it would seem to be fairly straightforward to argue that they are simply consultants offering their time and expertise on a standard fee-for-service arrangement
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Dissident Soaps (dissidentsoaps@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:58 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Some doc got jammed up for it in New Jersey maybe 8 years ago. I remember reading about it, but it's vanished from the google machine. -
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:58 JST
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@dissidentsoaps @VaxxSabbath @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Pulled some articles. The issue that those Jersey MD(s) got nailed for is that they were apparently 'in-network' with insurers (they had agreed to accept payments for services at the insurer-quoted rates) and were trying to charge concierge fees on top of that. This does seem to be a bit shady. If you're going to do concierge medicine you should probably do 'out-of-network' billing and be up front about it. It sucks for your cash flow situation (significant delays in collections) but that's the nature of the world.
weisszarett.com/blog/2019/11/understanding-the-issues-related-to-concierge-medicine/Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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Dissident Soaps (dissidentsoaps@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:59 JST
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@sickburnbro @TrevorGoodchild @Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Some states treat "concierge medicine" as an unlicensed insurer, since you're paying them up front to cover the risk of you getting sick some time in the future. -
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:13:59 JST
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@dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @TrevorGoodchild @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist yeah, the key thing to note is that (((they))) are going to be very hostile to anything which has the net effect of routing around their control and profit mechanisms, and they are very very good at sniffing those out
therefore, anything which attempts to do that will need to be very cleverly designed and implemented so that it is either illegible to their power-structures or immune to them
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 12-Jun-2024 09:15:02 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @VaxxSabbath as things are going even the incompetent ones are opting out, only the desperate ones who don't have any value to their time take them -
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AmonMaritza (amonmaritza@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:24:37 JST 
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Ford v. Dodge might show up with shareholder derivative suits against companies for DEI initiatives. Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:24:38 JST
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@epictittus @TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist the problem with "private healthcare" and "insurance" is that they wind up in a terminal death-spiral: third-party payment creates a situation where providers are incentivized to raise their prices as much as they can, because the consumer of the service is not the payer for that service and there is a fairly large amount of "float" that can be absorbed systemically without obvious specific pain felt by any particular party, therefore price discrimination is not a thing that happens
this is a VERY tough problem to solve; it isn't just how do you tell Dr. Noseberg the Shekel-Grifter "no", it's how do you tell Dr. White von Highskill that he might be exactly the best surgeon on five continents that he thinks he is and yet the market still can't bear the downstream consequences of him charging 100% of what he thinks appropriate, that he must accept some limitations there in at least some circumstances?
the cure for this winds up looking a lot like monarchy; the Royal College of Physicians is a prestigious thing, and titles are handed out for those who embody particular excellence, but it is royal and therefore mediated by some sovereign who takes an interest in its application to the welfare of his people
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Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:24:38 JST 
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@VaxxSabbath @TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist A lot of this is solvable by removing jews, whenever I talk about the future of any topic I assume removal of jews as a baseline, otherwise theres no point talking about any future. For example, profit incentive for corporations exists because of the Ford vs Dodge decision, saying corporations MUST put shareholder profits above all else.
Remove that decision, and companies no longer have to profit seek at expense of basic humanity, and keeping sociopaths in CEO and board level positions becomes an unjustifiable burden (due to their frequent theft, corruption and parasitism). And I know this is true because that's how it USED TO BE, Ford was sued for giving higher wages to employees iirc, the entire company leadership voted to give money to workers rather than keep it for themselves. -
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:24:39 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist the entire "payment problem" boils down to the ugly problem of how much it is reasonable to expect somebody to pay for "reasonable" (not necessarily even "heroic") medical care over the course of a lifetime and how you can force them to do it once they consume the service; medical care is one of those goods for which there is approximately infinite demand, especially in a culture that values life, youth, and health above all else
there are all kinds of notional permutations, but they all wind up looking like something we already know about and don't want: the HMO, the insurance company, gummint healthcare, and so forth
there seems to be a limited amount of novel ideas in this equation, and some new ideas are sorely needed
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Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:24:39 JST
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@VaxxSabbath @TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist If
1) The condition itself is curable or treatable
2) The illness is teratogenic or a life injury or infection, and cannot be passed onto children
3) Children can in principle be had, ie the patient is of breeding age
Society has an interest and benefits from covering and expediting the cure fully.
In all other cases, private healthcare and insurance is the only option, and where that fails and the person is suffering too much, charity is the option. I believe we are a charitable people, and without nonwhite leeches on the system, charity can handle a LOT.
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Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:36:56 JST
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@JoshuaSlocum @VaxxSabbath @TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Because of this, sticker price on treatments for boutique diseases is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nobody is paying that. Nobody can. But by any fair definition it certainly is healthcare.
Lot of misconceptions to unpack.
Im not against funding research, I just didnt address it because we are talking about healthcare costs specifically. Research isnt healthcare, its separate, and should be funded based on available funds, not end result. If you want we can discuss research (I favor a shotgun approach).
Boutique diseases are rare and not of concern to a nation as a whole. There has to be triage at some level, money isnt infinite. Should we blow a trillion trying to turn gays straight? Some things are just a burden that the individual suffers with and dies, ita fucking tragic but there is no reason to export that tragedy to everyone.
Treatments are expensive for a lot of dumb reasons, like the fact that hospitals dont get paid fully by insurance, so the price is 2x, 3x, 10x what it should be, just to extract the actual amount.
Charity can be useful, but it's not a magic wand. Charity is a byproduct of wealth, and we're not in a great place for that now.
Charity is a function of basic humanity and high trust societies, not disposable income, the highest sources of per capita charity are the middle and working classes. Niggers and jews dont donate to charity, but they arent human. Also people in high-tax societies donate less charity, for obvious reasons.
But... even taking your premise as true... If people can't afford to be charitable toward boutique diseases, how is it ethical to take food from their table and force them to fund boutique disease research?
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JoshuaSlocum (joshuaslocum@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 04:36:56 JST 
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@epictittus @VaxxSabbath @TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist The boutique disease I had in mind in particular is cystic fibrosis. It is a uniquely (more or less) northern European genetic disease, and is usually classified as the most common life-threatening genetic disease.
That said, all of the CF patients worldwide wouldn't fill the University of Texas football stadium. The newly available CFTR modulators have a sticker price of somewhere around $300K/year, and they were developed with the help of some of the same Wall Street shenanigans we were talking about earlier.
The problem with charity in healthcare is that healthcare varies wildly. Getting a free wellness check is way different than a prosthetic limb which is way different than an organ transplant. Charity certainly can fill in cracks here and there, but it scales poorly. A lot of healthcare requires massive vertical integration and the physical plant to keep it operating. GamGam's sewing circle volunteering part-time is not gonna cut it.Bread up, Bro likes this. -
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@epictittus @VaxxSabbath @TrevorGoodchild @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist >research new cures and treatments, but thats not healthcare per se
FWIW, this is hugely expensive. For many reasons, but fundamentally it's just hard. Because of this, sticker price on treatments for boutique diseases is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nobody is paying that. Nobody can. But by any fair definition it certainly is healthcare.
(Pharma has gotten a black eye recently, but there is quite a lot of non-shitty things going on in that sphere. Dismissing our alchemists and sorcerers out of hand is not a good idea.)
Charity can be useful, but it's not a magic wand. Charity is a byproduct of wealth, and we're not in a great place for that now. It's one thing to give excess canned food to a food pantry; it's an entirely other thing to gift an MRI.
Healthcare is insensitive to price signals because it's a different beast than other services. It is highly sensitive to regulation. And it operates on a long timeline, requiring a certain amount of inertia or it falls behind quickly.
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CoQ_10 (coq_10@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:29 JST 
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@petra @VaxxSabbath @agaperealm @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild > A BD type robot would not be effective in a typical work site today, but change how the work site operates and then it may.
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:29 JST
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@CoQ_10 @petra @VaxxSabbath @agaperealm @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild entire ways of building things have been changed, often to their detriment, to make it easier to do with robots.
That said, things only change, or stay changed if the money works.
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:30 JST
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@agaperealm @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild that isn't going to happen, for simple reasons of cost
there is zero efficiency gain for making a robot do most of those things; all of the gains of technology come from redefining the problem space to permit the efficient use of large-scale solutions
for one-offs and custom environments, it is going to remain far, far cheaper to employ the Mk I Meatbot
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petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:30 JST 
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@VaxxSabbath @agaperealm @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild Redefining the problem space is what might make these AI type solutions possible, though. Massive standardization in components, assembly units, etc., for example.
A BD type robot would not be effective in a typical work site today, but change how the work site operates and then it may.
Think when the very first personal cars were introduced. Just the state of the roads, and the roads that were available, made the idea of every family having one or two to use for themselves totally crazy.
Just a few decades later everything is now paved and transportation organized around these vehicles. So now they are perfectly possible.
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agaperealm (agaperealm@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:31 JST
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@VaxxSabbath @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild Diesel engine mechanic, HVAC tech, Welder, tow truck operator, locksmith, plumber, carpenter, etc.. Careers like these will have the longest runway but will eventually fall to AI powered robots (think Boston Dynamics with AI). -
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:31 JST
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@agaperealm @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild Diesel engine mechanic
for the "diagnosis" part, not for the "fixing" part
HVAC tech
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Welder
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tow truck operator
how's that autonomous driving going? lol
locksmith
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plumber
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carpenter
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agaperealm (agaperealm@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:31 JST
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@VaxxSabbath @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild " Careers like these will have the longest runway but will eventually fall to AI powered robots (think Boston Dynamics with AI)." -
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Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:32 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath Its all diagnostics, not just radiology. The nurse taking care of me was using what she said was an "app" to figure out why I kept passing out. Turns out it was a rare reaction to an fluoroquin antibiotic, and a change in meds fixed it.
In 10 years, all medical docs will be doing most of their diagnostics from a tablet, inputting symptoms and answering questions to get a result. Tablet will say "do X test on abdomen with your hand, and report if it is hard, lumpy, etc" and the doctor is just doing the physical part. In 20 years, the new crop of interns will think diagnostics is "impossible" without the tablet, because there are "too many conditiona to memorize". In 30 years, this tablet will be the cornerstone of medicine, without which countries collapse. The next few decades WILL see the rise of semi-successful 90IQ "doctors", or they might be renamed to some special kind of nurse, but do the same job.
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:32 JST
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@epictittus @TrevorGoodchild yeah, that's kind of where I'm going with it: anything which is
- a "control engineering" issue where some treatment is varied to maintain a given sensed quantity within some acceptable/desired band of states (anesthesia, internal medicine, medical oncology), or
- a "bucketing" issue where you are given some pile or stream of information and have to make a decision based on that information about what bucket the patient goes into (diagnostics, radiology)
are going to be eaten alive by AI, because the driving force in today's world is the "standard of care", which is defined with reference to commonly-accepted evidence-based medicine - RCTs, publications, and so forth - combined with insurance acceptability
the issue is that AI is going to incorporate a larger corpus of information automatically than any doctor can possibly even have access to; this guarantees that whatever the "standard of care" is, the AI is going to be better at achieving it than the doctor is
(note that this does not mean the AI is necessarily going to be better in any specific case, or that it is necessarily going to lead to better patient outcomes; what it means is that overall, it will probably have better care statistics, and for megascale systems like modern healthcare, that's literally the only thing that matters)
arguably, the rise of the 90IQ MD with a tablet (EMR) is here, for those with eyes to see it (feels bad mang); everything you described is already something that's happening
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:33 JST
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@TrevorGoodchild @sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist tbh I have the feeling that the anesthesiologist is going to be one of the first casualties of effective domain-specific AI/AGI
optimizing "keep the patient alive and vitals within acceptable band" by controlling a dozen variables is the sort of thing that's right up a machine's alley
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:33 JST
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@VaxxSabbath I don't think so tbqh, because the specialty isn't just that. It's intubating and extubating, establishing vascular access, placing arterial or central lines, placing epidural catheters (childbirth), and knowing how to run drips and stop catastrophic situations before they occur. An AI can't handle that, you would need a literal android/cyborg/ replicant.
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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:38:34 JST
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@sickburnbro @Shadowman311 @VaxxSabbath @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist Sadly, most of the time they just do amputations instead of reconstructions
To do complex microsurgery you need a good operating microscope, a good OR team and good anesthesia. It's not an outpatient kind of deal (although you can have all those things in surgicenters). Those cases are rough and long. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:41:08 JST
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@AmonMaritza @epictittus @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath @dissidentsoaps yes, but as we can see that was mostly based on 100% faked McKinsey stuff, which is kind of like the IBM of the big business world - you can never get fired for following their recommendations. -
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Semilexic (epictittus@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 07:41:09 JST
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@AmonMaritza @LostShakerOfSalt @transgrammaractivist @Shadowman311 @TrevorGoodchild @VaxxSabbath @dissidentsoaps @sickburnbro Funnily enough its never been used for that. -
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agaperealm (agaperealm@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 08:57:29 JST
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@sickburnbro @CoQ_10 @petra @VaxxSabbath @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild I've worked in the tech industry for over 25 years and work for an AI and LLM management solution company (really automation software company that now has AI integrated into it to speed corporate "digital transformation" efforts along. We keep telling our customers (who span across all industries) that the AI modules will simply free up the existing workforce to do more productive things. It's a lie. What we offer today can replace 90% of their tier three and 4 support organizations and 50% of their tier one and two people. I've seen internal release demos that will eliminate the bottom tier workers and cut the high dollar tier 1 and 2 engineers down to practically nothing within then next 12 months. There is no stopping this avalanche in motion and no way to get out of its way. There is also no stopping this tech from making robots superior and cheaper than even White workers. It's insane how fast this disruption cycle is spinning. -
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Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Jun-2024 08:57:29 JST
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@agaperealm @CoQ_10 @petra @VaxxSabbath @epictittus @TrevorGoodchild The problem is that LLM hallucinate things. Either you are going to spend hundreds of manhours nerfing them so they are essentially what people have now, or you're going to deal with criminal complaints when your chatbot tells a suicidal person to go through with it.
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