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   Mrs Cloudy (cloudymrs@mastodon.scot)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 16:33:08 JST Mrs Cloudy

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   • MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

   @fkamiah17 @ChrisMayLA6 Sunak and his media advisors are working remarkably effectifely to make sure he gets to go to California as soon as possible.

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     MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸 (fkamiah17@syzito.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 16:33:09 JST MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

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     @ChrisMayLA6 That D-Day snafu is going to absolutely *finish* the Tories 🥳

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     Emeritus Prof Christopher May (chrismayla6@zirk.us)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 16:33:11 JST Emeritus Prof Christopher May

     Good morning, lets start the day with some polling data (and why not?)

     While (despite everything) the Tories' opinion poll results were steadily climbing up until the 2019, since then there's been a major (almost unprecedented) decline.

     In 2019 John Burb-Murdoch (FT) surmises, the Tories benefitted from support for Brexit & a media-stoked frenzy against Jeremy Corbyn. Now those (now clearly fleeting) factors are absent there are few reasons to support the Tories.

     #Election2024
     #politics

     Bill repeated this.
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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 18:57:59 JST Jay Baker

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     • Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷

     @junesim63 @KimSJ @ChrisMayLA6 This was literally my argument at the end of 2019: that with the Tories beating Labour's popular manifesto by simply using the slogan of a promise to "Get Brexit Done", they would then be exposed, and the reality of their actual policies would hit hard ( https://www.mediaactivist.com/were-in-the-endgame-now/ ) Where I was wrong was in assuming Labour would not be purged of leftists so intensively and that members would not go anywhere near conman Sir Keir Starmer (although let's not forget that he did receive fewer votes than "nobody"). In fairness, he also threw out the pledges he made when campaigning to be leader. He's a cynical, dangerous man, an agent of the capitalist status quo who - as Danny Dorling demonstrated - will actually drag British politics not left at all, but right ( https://www.huckmag.com/article/how-britain-became-a-shattered-nation ). In fact, my prediction is that with the red party delivering no alternative to what we have now - and with an absence of leftist alternatives - the backlash will be devastating and extreme, and thus a Nigel Farage will succeed Sir Keir Starmer in No.10. Yet centrists will still scratch their heads and wonder why. Even as this happens all over the world.

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     JuneSim63 (junesim63@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 18:58:00 JST JuneSim63

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     • Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷

     @KimSJ @ChrisMayLA6 Shakes head in despair.

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     Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷 (kimsj@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 18:58:01 JST Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷

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     • Emeritus Prof Christopher May

     @junesim63 @ChrisMayLA6 You see, impatience! Corbyn’s policies were outside the Overton Window. He wasn’t the ‘first step’, he was a wild leap into the unknown (at least that’s how the electorate saw it).
     We may not like what Starmer is offering, but at least it’s to the left of the Tories, and will start to move the Overton Window leftwards again.

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     Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷 (kimsj@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 18:58:02 JST Kim Spence-Jones 🇬🇧😷

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     @ChrisMayLA6 This is all about patience. The Right realised decades ago that the Overton Window can only be moved slowly; they have spent 50 years dragging it slowly right. The Left is always impatient, and naively imagines that somehow every election will magically result in a giant leap to a socialist utopia. Starmer is regarded not as the first step in a long grinding journey leftwards, but as ‘Tory lite’, a betrayal of everything. A few like Mick Lynch understand this, but he is unusual.

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     JuneSim63 (junesim63@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2024 18:58:02 JST JuneSim63

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     @KimSJ @ChrisMayLA6 I considered Corbyn and McDonnell as the first step in a long, slow, grinding move leftwards. After all, their 2019 manifesto wouldn't have been out of place in a centre left progressive European country. Most people have forgotten how popular the policies were. Over 10m voted for them in spite of the demonisation by the media and sections of the Labour Party.