@ChrisMayLA6 This is all about patience. The Right realised decades ago that the Overton Window can only be moved slowly; they have spent 50 years dragging it slowly right. The Left is always impatient, and naively imagines that somehow every election will magically result in a giant leap to a socialist utopia. Starmer is regarded not as the first step in a long grinding journey leftwards, but as ‘Tory lite’, a betrayal of everything. A few like Mick Lynch understand this, but he is unusual.