It's definitely my favorite Game Boy game ever. Loved it. Still run through it every few years. Recently stumbled on a speedrunner's guide and it looked like a fun way to do it. (Guy only cranks up Wisdom and Will, apparently the combination is overpowered enough.)
> The remake was very fun too - though I am in a minority on that opinion:
The GBA one, I bought when it came out and I spent ten minutes excited, then a few hours horrified, after which I removed the cart and gave it to the first friend that would take it off my hands. I think the last straw was the colored orbs, like..."We have taken a cool game mechanic where to get past the trees you need an axe, and turned it into colored orbs that go away if you have a sickle." I think I could have enjoyed it if I hadn't played the original, but the remake felt like a downgrade, then to top it off, "You're not the hero of legend and there is no sword, the important thing is you believe in yourself". (With the GBA turned off, I am already a guy that believes in himself but is not the hero of legend nor in possession of a magic sword, and it doesn't require me to burn through AA batteries.)
@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@redneonglow Yeah, artwork seems to have degraded over the years. Even with the technical limitations, a lot of these games looked amazing. But when you've got a main character that is 500 trillion polygons, the tendency is to recycle heavily within the studio, a lot of games have lost distinctive visual styles. chrono_trigger.png supermetroid.gif
@SilverDeth@redneonglow@p That's actually very interested, what I did though is that I got a cheat thing on my laptop, and in order to for that to work, I had to opened up a process (the game itself), for it to work. And yeah this is the most recent remakes that I pirated, because the games are expensive af on steam
Every stat grew and/or decreased based on what you did. You wanted high defense and hit points? You had to let monsters beat you nearly to death. Every fight. You wanted to have a lot of magic points? You had to spend hundreds of MP - and you might get a small mana increase.
Your spells - they started out garbage - you had to level each spell up to 17 by chain killing monsters with them. There were about 100 different spells.
Want to be good with a weapon? You had to murder a million things with that weapon type. Want to be strong with a shield? You had to spam the guard command for hours on end to build your skill with it.
Except ultima. It's power was based ALL of your weapon masteries, all of your mastered spells, the combination of your stats and finally, your levels. It was either an abysmally weak spell that was joke-tier or capable of erasing the final boss faster than the (bugged) blood sword if you had spent the requisite months of time maximizing the user.
Did I mention stats atrophied if you didn't use them every so often?
They never revisited this type of character system - and it was almost as hated as the Junction system in Eight.
Squenix: We heard you! Here is your FF7 in expensive installments that shits all over the story and we lopped of Tifa's juggs to satisfy 300lb pink-haired Amerikwan butter-golems!!!!
Me: Hard pass.
That was the one game that might have sold me on a new console. (3DS was the last one I bought, and it was a refurb that I further repaired myself).
@SilverDeth@Jojothegoodperson@redneonglow A soap company that spent a hundred years selling soap by shoving a shapely blonde woman with perfect skin into their ads will make a passive-aggressive bus stop ad at you if you let Tifa keep her flotation devices. player1size0--dove.png
@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@redneonglow Sanitized the plotline, chopped off half the plotline, censored the art (to avoid offending Western audiences, according to Square), and I don't care how famous the actors they hire are, in Square games, the English voice acting is always
@gnarley_boot@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@redneonglow I think it's fine that it never got a sequel. It is a good game, I enjoyed it. I liked Vagrant Story, it's fine that it didn't have a sequel (though it is kind of a shame that so much of the game got cut).
@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@redneonglow Chrono Cross is a strange game. It is half excellent and half lame. Very interesting battle system, very interesting spin on the ending to Chrono Trigger and some parts of an independent plotline, but then there was a bunch of horseshit. I think part of it was that FF7 was a huge deal (imagine the amount of hype Cyberpunk 2077 had), Chrono Trigger was one of their major hits from the previous generation, and Square couldn't stop over-broadening the scope of *everything* at that point. So the game was kind of half each of three good games and a mediocre game, too much crap shoved in, but still pretty enjoyable.
The fact that Chrono Trigger never gotten a proper sequel is a crime against humanity. Nintendo will just sit on the old game and send cease and desist letters to any fan attempts at a sequel.
@Jojothegoodperson@p@redneonglow Chrono Trigger stood up to even the early PS 1 RPG's like Suikoden and Wild Arms in terms of graphics, and blew them out of the water in gameplay and story.
Take the non-linearity of plot and the random chances for "glimmering" new moves of the Romancing SaGa games and combine them with the fantasy/sci-fi blended aesthetics of the GB SaGa games and the short-story structure of Live-A-Live. The result is SaGa Frontier.
@lykanthrocide@redneonglow@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth I greatly enjoyed the Game Boy ones and Live-A-livE, but I did not play any of the other SaGa games. (I have a Japanese copy of Romancing SaGa. This might sound impressive, but basically when I was there in 2007, I rifled through the 50-yen buckets at the front of the shops in Akihabara, right, like the ones that are just a loose bucket of games near the door and if you buy one, the owner looks annoyed that you made him ring it up instead of just shoplifting.)
I recently finished my first (and probably last) run of FFII on GBA. second worst of the mainline 2D FFs (after V), but I'm glad the original led to SaGa.
@p@redneonglow@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth This makes me far angrier than it realistically should. I now want to create a female character and give them the most unrealistic boob size and small waist that I can just to spite them.
@p@redneonglow@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@lykanthrocide I was there in 2022 and it's all anime shit and maid cafes now. We found an alleyway with a few small shops that had radio equipment and electronics parts but this was the tiny minority.
@sun@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@lykanthrocide@redneonglow Did it stop? Like, there were old guys with fire-hazard shops built from particle board in alleyways, smoking and selling stacks of weird chips and diodes and stuff. Also there was a kebab guy under the bridge between the train station and the main drag. (For whatever reason, I always went the "wrong" way out of the train station and ended up walking around the station under that bridge, but for my trouble, I ended up with kebabs.) There were regular electronics stores, too, the video game shops and whatnot.
@p@Jojothegoodperson@cunt@redneonglow 256gigs got me every single NES, SNES, Game Boy, Game Boy Advanced, Master System, Genesis, Game Gear, ATARI and about 500 Arcade games, plus operating system with plenty of room to spare.
@SilverDeth@p@Jojothegoodperson@cunt@redneonglow >256gigs got me every single NES, SNES, Game Boy, Game Boy Advanced, Master System, Genesis, Game Gear, ATARI and about 500 Arcade games, plus operating system with plenty of room to spare. There are phones now with 1TB expandable SD and 1TB native storage, for 2TB total. Wikipedia itself (uncucked) is 80gb. How many ancient and modern books and movies could be put in the rest? How much curriculum?
This is why I think kids today dont need the internet, you can put the best of human media onto a device that fits inside a pocket.
It would be a far better childhood than we ever had.
@p@cunt@SilverDeth@redneonglow TRUE, or even better, you could get yourself an eternal hard drive for all of your games, if you have the money for 4tb of storage
@cunt@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@redneonglow It's pretty easy to just get all of the NES/SNES/GB ROMs. You can fit all of the games ever created for those systems on a $5 microSD card now. Then you don't have to go looking.
@SilverDeth@p@redneonglow Look at this everyone, I'm not really that worried because russia is the king of piracy, but still, this company is literal dogshit image.png
The problem with the "Dream Team" is that you can't get them back together again for act 2. You had different groups owning different parts of Chrono Trigger, and that caused... shall we say... narrative problems.
Tthe team's vision exceeded their reach - and in creating a bazillion characters, they could not even hope to properly flesh them out - let alone conclude Janus and his sister's storyline in a satisfying way.
Which was arguably the entire point of the game.
Frankly, Magus should have been the main character of Chrono Cross. But I think there were legal problems and nobody kept the dev team in check and on track for what the game was supposed to be.
@Jojothegoodperson@redneonglow@p The story falls apart and legal wrangling prevented the requisite fan service and a satisfying conclusion to Crono Trigger's last dangling plot threads.
I would not call it "horrible." The team was talented, the effort was there and the mechanics were sound. It was simply mediocre compared to its predecessor and didn't accomplish what it set out to do.
@FailurePersonified@Jojothegoodperson@SilverDeth@redneonglow Man, I am all, like...I have not ever bought a soap besides those terrible orange Dial ones. Probably made by the same company. All those people that tried to boycott Bud Lite and most of them switched to a beer that was made by the same parent company which isn't even Anheuser-Busch any more, it's some massive Euro conglomerate that once bought all of the hops in South Africa to squeeze otehr beer companies.
I’m literally shaking rn fr no cap. I’ve never been angrier, how could you just stand there washing your hands or even worse, knowing full well that they push something I DONT AGREE WITH! :cryblood: :angrylaugh:
No, I just use man soap because I am a man. Also Head and Shoulders or generic, I have a giant bucket of single-razor disposable Bics, etc. Man stuff.
(Seriously, had acne as a teenager that went away immediately after I stopped using extra-scented boomer-style soaps and shampoos that were around the house and picked up grandpa's habit of just using the orange Dial bars, which probably seemed like a luxury to him, since he grew up on lye soap. All of those smell-chemicals turned out to be either cancerous or hormone disruptors, so I regret nothing.)
m guessing you’re not far off, with most large brands selling cheap necessities, they pretty much won’t compete with each other anyway, just gives you the illusion of choice anyway.
> But any post-secondary institution is going to take the 80 IQ diploma guy over the 100 IQ GED and so would most employers.
Are you worried that the mechanic that you don't want to send through high school isn't going to get into college?
> Seeing the budget expanded year after year to bring up the bottom 5-10%
Do you think that's the goal? I don't think that's the goal.
> Too many people I grew up with developed a bad taste for the education system
I do not have much regard for the education system.
The question of whether it's worth trying to cultivate an educated population versus whether our education system is good, those are different questions. Learning to code outside school did me more good. The main things I got from school were bad habits, completely malformed expectations about the world, a severely skewed idea of history, and misanthropy.
> The fuck does my mechanic need to spend 2 years in biology class for?
He can get his GED if he really doesn't wanna do it, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing for him to know that if he's A- and his wife is A+ and their kid is AB+, she fucked the mailman.
I guess the group I'm specifically discussing here is the ones who think reading is for nerds and have no interest in learning or education and the developmentally challenged people who don't benefit at all from the extra attention. It's not going to change their lives in any measurable way.
Seeing the budget expanded year after year to bring up the bottom 5-10% instead of creating opportunities for people who have the potential to make a real difference and could is a waste of resources.
Too many people I grew up with developed a bad taste for the education system that kept them from pursuing a serious goal in life. People who could have been community leaders if they were motivated and encouraged properly.
@epictittus@SilverDeth@p@Jojothegoodperson@cunt@redneonglow I've been pushing this point for a while now. We have the sum total of our species' achievements and accumulated knowledge at our finger tips and the general public is just as ignorant when it comes to life skills and understanding the natural world as they've ever been.
Knowledge only has value to those who can actually interpret and apply it.
Every half-tard gets a TA (teacher's assistant) that pushes them through each class. For what? So an 80 IQ meatbag can graduate with the same qualifications as the average kid? $50k/year for each of these TAs to make sure Gump-tier intellectuals have high school diplomas that qualify them to be door greeters at wal-mart.
We don't have a lack of information. We have a misguided approach to uplifting our youth and making sure each tier of aptitude has a reasonable chance of achieving their potential.
I realize this might be a little off topic since you were discussing video games but if we could use technology to categorize and motivate younger minds into classes based on mental capacity rather than age we'd see a major surge in competent and committed young professionals.
Now that same fact is hiding on page 200 of a google search, on a russian language website where you have to click away 11 porn ads to get to it, then translate the fact back to english.
@epictittus@SilverDeth@p@Jojothegoodperson@cunt@redneonglow Exactly. Even as an adult I read things where I'm like "This sounds off and I don't have two hours to get to the bottom of it" so I can't imagine how a younger, impressionable mind sorts through the dross at this volume.
What we need is something like a digital encyclopedia that's curated by trustworthy Whites and a system of education that encourages an interest in learning for those who have the capacity and a fast-track to trades/apprenticeships for those more suited to labor industries.
The fuck does my mechanic need to spend 2 years in biology class for?
The idea that you can take a cross-section of the population and apply the same educational strategy across the board is retarded and inefficient.