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   Diana Montalion 🌻 (diana@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 18-May-2024 03:10:57 JST Diana Montalion 🌻

   • Yvonne Lam

   @yvonnezlam Made famous in the NewCrafts closing keynote … was a perfect moment set up by other talks here.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Sunday, 19-May-2024 05:53:32 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @diana @yvonnezlam Also love how it also explains why it's a thing they don't do as a side-effect.
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     Hugo 雨果 (whynothugo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 00:37:47 JST Hugo 雨果

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     @rhapsodos @lanodan @diana @yvonnezlam I heard and used the term "housekeeping" before "technical debt" became popular.

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     rhapsodos (rhapsodos@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 00:37:48 JST rhapsodos

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     @lanodan @diana @yvonnezlam reposted with alt-text

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 01:11:41 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @rrwo @whynothugo @rhapsodos @diana @yvonnezlam I don't really see how replacing a crude temporary solution magically doesn't makes it housekeeping.
     
     Specially when "tech debt" is associated to a evolution of things which grinds down the ability to do any work or even have something working, than debt as in "operating at loss" (debt being something fine given enough revenue or capital for it, or even cheat out via bigger picture investments, see things like Über).
     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: repeated this.
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     Robert Rothenberg (rrwo@floss.social)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 01:11:42 JST Robert Rothenberg

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     @whynothugo @rhapsodos @lanodan @diana @yvonnezlam

     I don't agree, fully.

     "housekeeping" refers to cleaning up (e.g. deleting temp file cruft) as well as improving and redesigning (e.g. updating the code as systems upgrade and evolve).

     "tech debt" refers to temporary or poor quality work that needs to be fixed in the future. It's akin to replacing a cracked panel held together with duct tape.

     But confused business logic grows organically, and feels like tech debt instead of housekeeping.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 21-May-2024 08:43:30 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @rrwo @diana @rhapsodos @whynothugo @yvonnezlam Also
     Explain me technical debt like I'm 5.jpg