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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 21:07:36 JST BattleDwarfGimli I am going to engage in a little White Shaming this morning. I think it is merited.
How many of you are genuinely able to name more than one piece of classical music that isn't hammered to death by Hollywood? How many of you can name a composer other than Mozart or Beethoven, AND THEN, name a piece of music associated with that composer? How many of you have read Kipling, or Robert Service, or Thomas Mallory? Can you name the Greek, Roman, or Norse gods, beyond the ones mocked by the jews at Marvel Comics? In what year did the German people slaughter three whole Roman legions in the Teutoburg Forest?
Far too many of you can name and sing along to every nigger rap song out there, and know every Jap anime that has ever existed (except Appleseed; nobody seems to know Appleseed), and have seen every jew-made Hollywood blockbuster out there.
But almost none of you know Allegri.
I put a geas upon you. But you probably don't know what a geas is, do you.
geas (plural geasa or geases)
pron. "Ges".
(originally in ancient Irish religion and mythology) A vow, obligation or injunction placed upon someone to do something, which typically brings harm if violated and blessings if obeyed.
Do one thing today, to enrich your understanding of White Culture and improve your knowledge of your own people.-
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Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 21:07:34 JST Special Guest Star Was -
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Sideshow_Jane (sideshow_jane@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 21:07:35 JST Sideshow_Jane @BattleDwarfGimli I have a degree in English with a specialisation in English Ren literature. It's a no nigger zone. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:52 JST Bob Let me see the words ... -
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Snidely_Whiplash (snidely_whiplash@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:53 JST Snidely_Whiplash I proclaim it all the time, Bob.
You refuse to proclaim it.
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Snidely_Whiplash (snidely_whiplash@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:54 JST Snidely_Whiplash It is the law, of most ancient and venerable custom, going back to the Apostles, that no Catholic religious service of any kind can be held at which the Gospel is not read aloud to the congregation.
This is what Bob calls "Withholding the Gospel."
What was banned were bad and heretical translations and commentaries, of the sort you seem to be most admiring of.. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:54 JST Bob Can we agree that there is only one Gospel? Would you please proclaim that Gospel that you've heard so many, many times?
[Gal 1:6-10 KJV] 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:55 JST BattleDwarfGimli "You have ears, right? The alphabet predates the printing press..."
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:55 JST Bob The Gospel was withheld by the churches. I don't care if it was printed. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:56 JST BattleDwarfGimli See, you've fucked up. Because now you've pissed me off. These are the only references to what you're talking about.
"At the provincial Second Council of Tarragona (Conventus Tarraconensis) in 1234, the Spanish bishops, according to a decree of King James I of Aragon, declared that it was forbidden to anyone, to own a Romance language translation of books of the Old and New Testament."
"in 1229 at the Council of Toulouse, the Catholic Church actually made it illegal for anyone other than the clergy to own a copy of the Old or New Testament, otherwise, he must be executed."
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:56 JST Bob You have ears, right? You know how they work without eyes ...
The alphabet predates the printing press ... -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:57 JST Bob No. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:58 JST BattleDwarfGimli "The church killed people for having a Bible."
I need an example of this. I read a lot of history, Bob. Especially from that period. Give me an example. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:58 JST Bob You don't believe me. I can't make you.
If I give you a source, you won't believe that. Do your own research. It's not hard. Try. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:58 JST BattleDwarfGimli cop out. Give me a source. You can do it. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:59 JST BattleDwarfGimli You keep saying that. I denied exactly nothing. You have yet to prove that martyrs only existed during the Dark Ages. They have even existed in modern times. Your point on martyrs is moot, at best. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:21:59 JST Bob Don't believe me. Look for yourself. The church killed people for having a Bible. It's a problem for them then and now. On a scroll, on your phone, written by airplane ...
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:00 JST Bob I told you. Martyrs. You denied them. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:01 JST Bob No. They were dedicated to withholding the Gospel.
Religion is a for profit enterprise.
Grace is the Gift of God. Jesus paid for your Gift with His Precious Blood.
There's no gold or real estate in that kind of transaction.
He died for you personally. Your sins past, present and future, big or small were dealt with at the Cross. But you have to believe in what He did, not what you do. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:01 JST BattleDwarfGimli "No. They were dedicated to withholding the Gospel."
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:02 JST WilhelmIII Until the printing press, only the church had religious books.
Only the very wealthy had any other kind of book.
After the printing press, what you describe is accurate until modern times. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:02 JST Bob The printing press was the churches problem. People had to be killed lest the Word escape to the public. -
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:02 JST WilhelmIII Before the printing press, the Church was the center of village life. Most people in Europe attended a formal mass two or three times a week, and the Church also served as the social center for the community.
Larger churches would also have an attached monastery or abbey.
Senior management in Rome was highly political and corrupt, but the local churches were dedicated to spreading the Word of God. -
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Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:03 JST Special Guest Star disagree. there was usually one person in each home who could read, even among the poorest people.
there wasn’t much TO read, but someone needed to be able to read the Bible aloud to the family.
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Snidely_Whiplash (snidely_whiplash@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:04 JST Snidely_Whiplash If he had it would have done him no good. About 4% of the population could read. Charlemagne made some stir by learning to read after he became Emperor. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:04 JST Bob People hear. People read. If they have the Gospel. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:04 JST BattleDwarfGimli Most people couldn't read until around the early 19th Century, Bob. Now what. -
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Snidely_Whiplash (snidely_whiplash@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:05 JST Snidely_Whiplash You are both illiterate ignorant and stupid.
The bible was read aloud in every church in Chistendom every fucking day, by the only people available who could read. They made sure to cycle through the sections of the bible so the entire NT and most of the old would be read every year. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:05 JST BattleDwarfGimli "The bible was read aloud in every church in Chistendom every fucking day" -- this is exactly what I am saying though. You are 110% correct. What I am saying is that the average person did not own a book at all, let alone a home Bible. That wasn't a thing until the 16th century. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:06 JST BattleDwarfGimli Then by your own words, there is no way that access (or lack thereof) could CAUSE the Dark Ages. The era of the so-called "Dark Ages" is simply the end of the age of the Bronze and Iron Age empires, like Greece, Persia, Rome, etc. It was just a shift in how politics were implemented. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:06 JST Bob Withholding the Bible was the dark age.
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☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ (kingofwhiteamerica@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:07 JST ☦️KingOfWhiteAmerica☦️ @bobbala @BattleDwarfGimli @Aly @EdBoatConnoisseur @Largo @dogslurp Dude, surely you jest. Widespread literacy tends to be the exception in history, not the norm. Books / scrolls were expensive, no doubt. But “trained professionals” whose business it was to read these documents usually didn’t go without.
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:07 JST Bob That's got nothing to do with access to the Gospel. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:08 JST BattleDwarfGimli I am not. You are attributing the so-called Dark Ages to the criminalization of private possession of a Bible, which is silliness. That's false causation, and doesn't even make any sense. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:08 JST Bob How could the abscence of the Word of God be crucial?
You certainly haven't read 1st and 2nd Chronicles.
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:09 JST BattleDwarfGimli You are arguing causation. I have never seen anything to indicate that the events you name actually caused a period that has been proven to be just academic hatred of European culture.
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:09 JST Bob Why are you dancing? -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:10 JST BattleDwarfGimli Are you pivoting and asking leading questions?
One thing is not the other, and Martyrs date back to the time of Christ Himself. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:10 JST Bob Possession of a Bible. Translation of Bibles. These became capital crimes.
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:11 JST Bob Are you denying people were martyred? -
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EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:12 JST EdBoatConnoisseur @Aly @dogslurp @BattleDwarfGimli @Largo that is without mentioning the differences in higiene from an irishman and an englishman, when the norsemen arrived to conquer england the englishmen feared their women would flee from them to norsemen as the norsemen custom of washing their whole body at least once a week was not a standar of cleanliness that englishmen could compete with, writings from the time claim english women could tell when their men went outside the village from the smell alone.
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:12 JST BattleDwarfGimli Is this documented, or just standard academic hatred for White cultures? Because, the Dark Ages is all bullshit too. -
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Bob (bobbala@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:12 JST Bob The dark ages were caused by the churches making possession of a Bible a capital crime. -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:12 JST BattleDwarfGimli There was never a Dark Ages, Bob. Thats an academic trope. -
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AlyoCat (aly@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:13 JST AlyoCat @dogslurp @BattleDwarfGimli @Largo Saint Patrick not only invented green piss beer, he brought Christianity to Ireland, he instilled a sense of literacy and learning that would create the conditions that allowed Ireland to become "the isle of saints and scholars"... thus preserving Western culture while Europe was being overrun by barbarians.
While Europe evolved from the classical age of Rome to the medieval era, it could not have been a thing without Ireland.
Irish monks and scribes maintained the very record of Western civilization... copying manuscripts of Greek and Latin writers, both pagan and Christian, while libraries and learning on the continent were forever lost. ☘️ -
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BattleDwarfGimli (battledwarfgimli@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:14 JST BattleDwarfGimli I really need to read Crassus and Pompey. There's some Scipio I need to pay attention to as well. So many Romans. So little time. Currently working on Plutarch. Last year I read Caesar, Ovid, and Plato's "Republic". Took me five months to properly read that last one... Half the stupid shit in the White Western world would not have happened if we had just read Ovid and Plato. It is all forewarned in there. -
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dogslurp, a fine gentleman (dogslurp@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:14 JST dogslurp, a fine gentleman @BattleDwarfGimli @Largo Imagine how many great books didn't get copied. Well, in some cases you don't have to imagine. But still, imagine!
I'm reading Fall of Rome by Bryan Ward-Perkins. So far it's covering pottery and roof tiles. Not sure what else it'll cover. But Rome definitely fell and there was much of value that was lost for hundreds of years. And unlike technology, there's no mechanism for rediscovering the deeds or thoughts of men.
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Largo (largo@poa.st)'s status on Saturday, 29-Jun-2024 12:22:15 JST Largo @BattleDwarfGimli Homework Task:
Read about Sulla, Crassus, Pompey, and Caesar.
This should cover The Social War, The Spartacus Uprising, Sulla & Marius' Civil War, Caesar's Conquest of Gaul, Crassus' Parthian War, and eventually Caesar crossing the Rubicon.
Many lessons to be learned from reading about the last 40 years of the Roman Republic.
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