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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:16 JST 
Vivi Nella Verita
Is the browser 3 benchmark made for super computers or something? -
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Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:03 JST 
Tyler
You are the Jeff Cliff of Windows. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:04 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler
for desktop, linux is still king for servers -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:05 JST
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@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler
It's true. Windows has a lot of issues too. Windows is just slightly less shitty overall and better user experience -
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:06 JST 
WilhelmIII
Oh, *now* it's "no OS is perfect."
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:07 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler
Linux does not just work. It still requires a bunch of nonsense and configuration to just work. The move to wayland is not helping either -
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:07 JST
WilhelmIII
Wrong.
My 80-year-old mother-on-law just installed Linux Mint MATE on a laptop last week and is happily posting boomer memes to Facebook.
While there is some hardware that is problematic, it's not like telling everyone that any CPU without TPM 2.0 is verboten. Because grandma is not going to be able to do the things you suggest to fix that. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:07 JST
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@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler
Do you not live in Reality? No OS is perfect and has their issues. Kudos to your grandma for being the minority -
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:08 JST
WilhelmIII
Why do I need to fuck around with all that mess when I can just install something that works and doesn't spy on me and sell my data? -
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Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:09 JST
Tyler
Sucks you need to do workarounds for your so called superior os 😏 -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:09 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@tyler @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII
That is a very valid point. But there are great tools like privacy.sexy to debloat -
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:10 JST
WilhelmIII
False.
Much modern hardware is excluded from Windows 11.
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-11/how-to-fix-this-pc-doesn-t-meet-the-minimum-requirements-for/m-p/4047590
TPM 2.0 and UEFI are *required*
No waivers.
Linux runs just fine on the same hardware.
Go ahead and tell me why that's aaaaaaxxxxxxxualllly good for me. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:10 JST
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@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler
Dude, you don't know what you are talking about. I have a bunch of 2015/2016 hardware. Runs fine.
Rufus let's you burn windows ISO's to USB to bypass TPM and RAM requirements -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:11 JST
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@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler
False!
Windows 11 can run perfectly fine on 2015/2016 era Hardware. Probably older -
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Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:12 JST
Tyler
I love lubuntu for older computers. Old people love it. -
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:12 JST
WilhelmIII
Yeah, that's the other thing. With Windows 11, comply or die with their hardware requirements.
Whereas the latest lubuntu will run on hardware that Microsoft says you have to junk.
My mother-in-law just installed Linux Mint MATE on a very old laptop.
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Omega Variant (omega_variant@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:13 JST 
Omega Variant
Windows 7 was superior in everyway to Linux. 11 is more of a parallel grade program.
Spent hours and hours looking into potentially switching over and I can say without a doubt, Linux is simply for people who talk loud to make themselves look smart.
...And probably pan handle at the nearest highway exit
🤷 Why do that to yourself. Windows is out of the box ready
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WilhelmIII (wilhelmiii@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:13 JST
WilhelmIII
I've been using Linux on the desktop since 1999.
It really, really sucked back then. Compiling kernels so they would actually run on my hardware, living with terrible gaming because all of the video drivers had to be reverse engineered, really crappy substitute programs that got abandoned.
Yep, went through it all.
But as a professional IT person, I saw that Windows was the number one source of spam from bots. A newly installed Windows 7 box that was exposed to the Internet would become a bot server in minutes.
Where as Ubuntu listened on zero ports with the default install.
And now, when I can run Office 365 software in a browser, when Steam has Proton and runs games reliable enough that they are making bank selling a Linux device to run Windows games, when Windows 11 is basically an app for Microsoft to spy on you and sell your data and push their spam at you...
A Linux Mint desktop, on hardware that was thoughtfully chosen, simply works.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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The Almighty Kek (the_almighty_kek@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:14 JST 
The Almighty Kek
I want to go to Linux, but everything I do that isn't shitposting, I need Shitdows for. :kek_cry:
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Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 12:53:15 JST
Tyler
Windows chuds wouldn't get it.
Come home :ubuntu:✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:39 JST 
?? Humpleupagus ??
Use X11, because legacy has greater stabipity. Chroot jail them. No sudo access. Move all conf, including ssh into etc. Chmod 400. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:40 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@totalslothdeath @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler
There is no way that most of your users would love Linux on the Desktop, even stable linux distros are not really that.....stable. They only way the Linux Desktop is good in the Enterprise or Schools is via ChromeOS because it's locked down and limited to "Just Works" tech. -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:41 JST 
Ruling Otter
@verita84eva @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler So would I, but assholes in management everywhere I've worked think Windows is da bomb, even when it bombs and fucks up critical functions.
Every time one I'm interested in that might support the idea, they sell out to the jew 'going public' psyop and that inexplicably means squashing technological innovation. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:42 JST
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@totalslothdeath @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler
I would like to see you manage Linux Desktops for an Enterprise and report your findings. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:43 JST
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@totalslothdeath @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler
Imagine having to support Desktop Linux for them and deal with all the nonsense that will come with that.......like wayland. -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:43 JST
Ruling Otter
@verita84eva @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler I don't need to imagine it. I've been doing that for decades. Still do it today. Loving how easy it is. I have so little to do for them. -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:26:44 JST
Ruling Otter
@WilhelmIII @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @tyler @verita84eva Been using Linux (started with Slackware -- 14 3.5" floppies (or flippies, as we sometimes called them)) since 1995. Started using the "Mother's Day" release of Red Hat Linux (version 3.0.3) on an Digital Alpha UDB (aka Multia) when I discovered Red Hat before anyone knew who they were. (Dammit. *Just* missed Mother's Day release being a strange synchronicity.)
Yes, it was painful, but I was a system administrator using various company's versions of Unix and actually had an OSF/1 (later Digital Unix) desktop at work. So it was my *job* to get things working. When Linux came along it was just a natural to put it on my company issued laptop.
Never used anything since (except for 4 months I won't talk about). Where I am now, the company supports Windows and Mac. I use Fedora Linux. Linux is 'tolerated' but not supported. I've had my share of small problems going against the grain. But especially lately, I've heard so many gripes from my coworkers about the problems they are having with their company issued desktops or laptops, that I've started to tell them that I don't want to hear any more nonsense from them about "why do you bother using Linux because it's too much work to keep things working with company infrastructure?" Yeah. About that, you sycophants. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:34:46 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
I do have one windows pc in my office. It runs quickbooks, so I get that.
I do recall seeing something recently that allows windows applications to be ran in their own windows, but in vm (not wine). My memory may be bad though.
I think the key would be cloning a central system that's fixed. I think the problems start to arise when different people have different setups. Thus, I'd make the build as robust as possible to avoid having a bunch of user specific issues. Companies do this with windows VMs and thin clients all the time.
But I get the issue you're pointing at. Trust me. I have about 20 computers running various builds, some general use, some for specific purposes. It is a bit of work to maintain, though I've automated a bit via cron. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:34:47 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
ok, now what about all the business applications that only work on Windows? -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:36:23 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
It's for my law practice. Nothing goes on anyone else's server. 🤨 -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:36:24 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
Quickbooks is web-based now =) Upgrade -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:38:48 JST
Ruling Otter
@verita84eva @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler Wayland, that is.
Back to the point. An app that is Windows only (much less common today for business critical functions) has zero to do with the 'everything just works' on Windows claims. Having an app that only runs on Windows does not make Windows any less shitty. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:38:48 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
When windows doesn't work. It just doesn't work. I used windows for a few years when I first started practicing. I probably had a borked update every other month, and would have to wait two hours for it to repair. I have never had such global problems with Linux.
App specific problems, sure. But I've never had anything that wasn't solvable. Linux is like a tank built from parts borrowed from the army surplus store. -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:38:49 JST
Ruling Otter
@verita84eva @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler Oh *that's* bunk. I don't use it all. Haven't found anything yet that *requires* it. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:38:50 JST
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@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
Wayland is kinda being forced now. Maybe hard to stay pure X11. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:45:00 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
Quickbooks is gay. The desktop version I'm running lacks very basic features like importing time sheets at all, even from csv or excel (they wanted people to pay extra for that feature). Time has to be hand entered.
So sqlite -> CSV -> xdotool -> anydesk -> quickbooks. 😏 -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:45:01 JST
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@Tony @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
I agree. My accountant charges my wifes business for that but we don't understand that shit and ignore it lol -
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Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:45:02 JST 
Mr. Bacon
quick books is fake and gay. Those twats have been charging me $89/month for payroll services I DONT USE. And literally can't unsubscribe. I'm getting a new damn card -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:48:37 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
I have trust accounts I have to keep track of, and the bar can randomly audit. Thus, I prefer to use software where they can't question the reports.
There are some linux solutions, but it would take a bit if elbow grease to get setup and have to limit my projects. I'm almost done with my latest, so I may look at that again. -
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Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:48:38 JST
Mr. Bacon
I know, but why even use quickbooks. I just import my bank statements, convert them to csv, but them into sheets and then sort them and batch organize. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:52:03 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
Nothing just works on linux, except maybe manjaro, who does a fair job of having proper conf files at package install.
Most other build require some work, and it can be confusing to noobs because most programs use a client-server model, e.g. mpd, that require that they rtfm. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:52:04 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@totalslothdeath @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler
So when Linux users say "just works", they never ever ever ever have problems? -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:52:05 JST
Ruling Otter
@verita84eva @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler >My entire argument is that Windows is a better desktop experience overall for the end-user
And yet you have said at least a few times that things 'just work' on Windows without reference Windows specific apps.
The 'killer app' used to be everything. This isn't 1995. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:52:06 JST
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@totalslothdeath @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler
Are you retarded? The Use Case is everything. If you need something that only runs on windows or runs better there, you need windows. You sound like you are making the assumption that software on Windows can't 'Just Work'.
My entire argument is that Windows is a better desktop experience overall for the end-user -
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Ruling Otter (totalslothdeath@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:52:07 JST
Ruling Otter
@verita84eva @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler See! See! See!
How retarded do you have to be to think that a 'use case' is what makes Windows 'just work'. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:52:08 JST
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@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
See everyone! That is a use case! Right there! -
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Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:53:26 JST
Mr. Bacon
You can make usable profit/loss, balance sheet, ect with google sheets. It's not that hard to replicate like most of quickbooks functionality. I'm sure there are more complex things you may use, (payroll being the main one) it's super easy to make it yourself ?? Humpleupagus ?? likes this. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:57:17 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
If you're running i3wm and want your laptop to lock on lid close, you have to edit logind, then add xss-lock -- i3lock to your i3 config, and reboot. Just sayin.. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 13:57:18 JST
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@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
But the other guy says Linux just works for him and everything is hunky dory -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:00:20 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
I run i3 on a i13 with 10 cores / 16 threads and have never used more than 3gb ram running five monitors. I use maybe 1% cpu on average. 😏 -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:00:21 JST
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@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
Or just use KDE =) -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:13:03 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
I think windows is better for normies, but for the "power user" Linux will always be superior. One major reason is because a lot of the software available is comprehensive. While it does take some elbow grease, I've always been impressed by the fact that when I need some particular app to do something, either the app developer has already added such a feature, usually due to a long history of community input, or someone has a fork or another app that carries the weight. Basically, linux comes with a focus group and the apps reflect that. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:13:04 JST
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@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
Coomer Status: No -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:15:07 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
When nothing else works #!/bin/bash sed, awk, grep, find, echo, ... conditionals. -
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:15:09 JST
Vivi Nella Verita
@Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath
and weeks of finding hints on stackoverflow -
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Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:25:46 JST 
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@tyler @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @verita84eva
HEY IM NOT THAT OLD!!! <---- Lubuntu poweruser for years now. -
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Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:25:46 JST
Tyler
It's what my kids use -
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Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:26:12 JST
Gnarley Boot
@tyler @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @verita84eva
I needed something stable and reliable and that what I got with this system, and I like the real-time kernel that thing gives good performance for what I do. Debian/Ubuntu have flexible toolchains, so compiling software is a breeze and most git pages have Debian/Ubuntu instructions.
Plus lxqt + openbox are peak UI for me, doesn't get any better. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:26:12 JST 
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@gnarley_boot @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @verita84eva Talking about pc's im now a small pc guy (this things even has two gpu's)
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:40:46 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
Question 1:
You should never:
A. Shit in the food
B. Shit in the street -
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gentoobro (gentoobro@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:40:47 JST 
gentoobro
@verita84eva @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler @totalslothdeath Food Safety exam
Move somewhere that you don't need a loicense to checks notes cook food.
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Vivi Nella Verita (verita84eva@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:40:48 JST
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@totalslothdeath @Humpleupagus @Omega_Variant @The_Almighty_Kek @WilhelmIII @tyler
My mom was using linux but the Pajeets would not let her take the Food Safety exam for her business because their software only runs on Mac and Windows.
Use......Case......
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Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:51:10 JST 
Dudebro
Question 2:
Food is prepared by:
A. Washed hands
B. Stepping on it with bare feet that just stepped in shit -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Monday, 13-May-2024 14:51:10 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
Question 3:
Which is not a proper ingredient:
A. Your shit
B. Cow shit
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