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Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 02:24:47 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:

This is a sitting US Congresswoman.

Imagine thinking this relict hominid is anything but a talking soulless animal, let alone thinking it equal to a human or giving it voting rights and allowing it to hold office

Lol. Lmao. :airilol:
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  BobsonDugnuttHB (bobsondugnutthb@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 02:24:46 JST BobsonDugnuttHB
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  @TrevorGoodchild "We, as humans..."
  
  whoah whoah whoah, making a lot of assumptions there
  
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  Special Guest Star (s2208@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 02:24:46 JST Special Guest Star
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  They’re always so quick to claim personhood.
  
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  AlabasterBrick ?‍☠️ (alabasterbrick@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 02:32:44 JST AlabasterBrick ?‍☠️
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  Its real
  
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  petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:54 JST petra
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  @Starprophet1 @Charles_in_Charge @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @machciv @professionalbigot69 He's right. I get what he's saying.
  
  Shifting the average IQ by 5 points may not seem like much. But it's in the tails. For any society it's always in the tails. A 5 IQ average shift would multiply the number of above 140 IQ geniuses by 10x.
  
  It's in the tails.
  
  That they can catapult a society to something no one could have imagined.
  
  This is what happened with Victorian England.
  
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  Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:54 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
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  @petra @Starprophet1 @Charles_in_Charge @CatLord @machciv @professionalbigot69 I think about this a lot. Michael Faraday, James Clerk Maxwell, John Daniell, August Kekulé . . . dozens more, all in the same time period, all working together and bouncing ideas off of each other.
  
  No surprise it was an Age of Wonders
  
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  Starprophet1 (starprophet1@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:55 JST Starprophet1
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  you're going to need people to do the relative grunt work.
  I mentioned submarine qualified cooks. They are not engineers or technicians. Unlike regular land lubber cooks, submarine CS's must at least be smart enough to qualify in Submarine Warfare. That's what grunt level work will look like in an off-Earth settlement.
  
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  Starprophet1 (starprophet1@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:56 JST Starprophet1
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  "You're going to need someone to do the janitorial work, work the harvest in the hydroponics farms, be shop keepers, hair dressers, etc."
  Think of a qualified submariner who is a CS (Culinary Specialist). Just a cook, but he has to be smart enough to avoid dying.
  
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  Charles_in_Charge (charles_in_charge@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:56 JST Charles_in_Charge
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  @Starprophet1 @petra @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @machciv @professionalbigot69 I guess what I'm saying is that at some point in the future - maybe far future - when the chains of habitats grow to the point they are largely self supporting legit nations, you're going to need people to do the relative grunt work. If you're looking at something with the living area comparable to California, you're going to have millions of people there, living and working their entire lives, and they can't all be that above average. If you get to the point where life on a large habitat is more or less Earth like, you don't need everyone to have a masters in electrical engineering. A habitat the size of Orange Country isn't going to be the same as living aboard a sub.
  
  You don't want dullards, but a nation of 9 million Ivy League grads seems seems unlikely. I have my doubts even eugenics can push a population's IQ that far.
  
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  Charles_in_Charge (charles_in_charge@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:57 JST Charles_in_Charge
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  @Starprophet1 @petra @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @machciv @professionalbigot69 At first, for certain. Still, I suspect that would come down a tad as habitat construction matures. If you have a nation state of 80 O'Neil cylinders chained together, with each one 8 to 12 miles long and 5 miles across, you're going to start to run out of 120+ IQ types. You're going to need someone to do the janitorial work, work the harvest in the hydroponics farms, be shop keepers, hair dressers, etc.
  
  If you put the most dangerous things beyond their reach (airlocks and power generation in restricted areas), and make an environment more or less Earth like, you might be able to have those 110 IQ and even 100 IQ people do the more mundane jobs. It would also be at this point when you could start to get infiltration by Pajeets and others. More than anything else, these future people will have to remember the lesson we never learned; pick your own damned cotton.
  
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  petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:57 JST petra
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  @Charles_in_Charge @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @machciv @professionalbigot69 " You're going to need someone to do the janitorial work, work the harvest in the hydroponics farms, be shop keepers, hair dressers, etc."
  I admire how you think things out. Absolutely true.
  
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  petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:58 JST petra
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  @Charles_in_Charge @machciv @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @professionalbigot69 I agree entirely. I'm thinking this out for the first time and South America was something that occurred to me that it could go differently.
  
  But space and off Earth colonies are something entirely different in our history. It will have very unique and very powerful selection effects. I have no doubt on our ability to fuck things up but in the end off world humans will be very different from us. Much more intelligent. And much more cut and dry in their decision making.
  
  Ruthless fuckers. The idea of European White pathological altruism and the White man's burden will be utterly alien to them.
  
  Imagine a society with orbital military power and ~110+ average intelligence and organization that goes with it encountering a sub 70 IQ African nigger or Indian street shitter in two centuries.
  
  Extermination and conquest of "their" resources will be the obvious decision. And without quilt. Talking animals have no rights.
  
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  Starprophet1 (starprophet1@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:58 JST Starprophet1
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  But space and off Earth colonies are something entirely different in our history. It will have very unique and very powerful selection effects. I have no doubt on our ability to fuck things up but in the end off world humans will be very different from us. Much more intelligent. And much more cut and dry in their decision making.
  Off-Earth populations will probably have an IQ floor of 120.
  
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  petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:59 JST petra
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  @machciv @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @professionalbigot69 I imagine something like the selection effect that occurred for the early settlers and pioneers of North America.
  
  Then again, there's today's South America.
  
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  Charles_in_Charge (charles_in_charge@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:09:59 JST Charles_in_Charge
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  @petra @machciv @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @professionalbigot69 South America is the way it is because of the importation of African slaves, Indio's, and those two intermixing and generally overwhelming the old European over-class. A solar system settled with a combination of Mars bases, Moon bases, and a great many O'Neil cylinder habs will not have any problems with natives or ethnic mixing, at least not on any great scale.
  
  The people that go out and settle in the first few waves are going to largely be self selecting and homogenous. Pajeets, black Africans, and Jews aren't generally known for being frontiersmen and adventurers. They usually show up only after towns are established and running. There's also the fact that it's a lot harder to just walk or sail up to a habitat and set up shop compared to a terrestrial town. The people inside have to decide to let you in. A nation-state made up of 40 or 60 O'Neil cylinders chained together that was built by white Europeans who fled the diversity of Earth are unlikely to repeat the mistakes of their ancestors.
  
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  petra (petra@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:10:00 JST petra
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  @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @professionalbigot69 Actually moving into the solar system and colonizing it is going to have an incredible genetic selection effect on the progeny of the settlers. In a few generations they will have nothing in common with much of earth bound humanity, in intelligence, grit and culture. Earth could become a fantastic resource for them to reconquer and exploit, and with zero compunction in dealing with troublesome tribes.
  
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  Clayton Barnett (machciv@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:10:00 JST Clayton Barnett
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  @petra @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @professionalbigot69 I touch on this in my most recent books. Belters and Martians call Earth "Old Home." While not in a position to invade it, they consider themselves socially and politically separate.
  
  Given that the three Great Powers with reactionless motors only let their own kind off planet, it's safer up there than down here.
  
  amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0CXHXTBY5/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
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  DM me cats :nv: (catlord@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:10:01 JST DM me cats :nv:
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  @professionalbigot69 @TrevorGoodchild nigger hankering for some moongas
  
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  Starprophet1 (starprophet1@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:10:01 JST Starprophet1
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  Sheboon:
  Da Moon is made of gasses
  The Moon is exactly the opposite, nig nog.
  These nig nogs won't know what to do, when the first US aircraft carrier is destroyed by a hypersonic projectile.
  
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  Ulysses (professionalbigot69@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:10:02 JST Ulysses
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  @TrevorGoodchild boofed too much grass before getting to the podium
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:12:17 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @petra @Charles_in_Charge @Starprophet1 @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @machciv @professionalbigot69 you know, monistaries found it was best to not let monks sit in their rooms and read scripture all day. Much better outcomes when monks had to go outside and do some gardening.
  
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  Bread up, Bro (sickburnbro@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 10-Apr-2024 21:15:39 JST Bread up, Bro
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  @petra @Starprophet1 @Charles_in_Charge @CatLord @TrevorGoodchild @machciv @professionalbigot69 It's not even about shifting the tails - it's about shifting the midpoint. If your mean IQ is say, 110. That means the sum cognitive capacity of your society is massively higher.
  
  This is important because a lot of improvements are the "99% perspiration, 1% inspiration" - and if each 140IQ guy can have a dozen 125IQ guys helping him out, the amount of things that can be noticed is huge
  
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