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   寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 01:12:14 JST 寮
   Just as a reminder, SoystemD is not the first time Linux has gone through a bloated monopolist takeover.
   We have protest distro's like Artix and Devuan (and all its derivatives like antiX, and derivatives on THAT like MX Linux), as well as distro's that let you choose between evil and not evil like Gentoo and Peppermint OS, and distro's that don't use SoystemD in the first place like Void, Alpine, Puppy Linux, Damn Small Linux (RIP), postmarketOS, and a couple more.
   
   In the past the same controversy came up with Apache taking over the entire webserver/reverse proxy space with bloated code, then we got nginx, LighTTPD, and so on.
   
   Another controversy was Gnome 3, which then gave birth to MATE, Cinnamon, LXQt, and more.
   
   Yet another controversy with Audacity, which led to forks like Sneedacity.
   
   Or Oracle taking over everything Sun has made like Java (no alternative for a very long time, but now there's Kotlin, and C# as a similar language to Java), MySQL (MariaDB), OpenOffice (Libre Office), and so on.
   
   And on and on it goes.
   So it's not like WinDOS where once Microshaft fucks up, you have no other choice than to just deal with it.
   What we free OS masterrace users have that those proprietary OS peasants don't have is choice, and the ability to spin up superior alternatives and move on as soon as some massive project fucks up.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 10:18:18 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo The forks eventually go to shit as well, or die. Everything has been moving in the direction of being dependent on the corporateware. Sneedacity looks dead. I personally used Tenacity, and that has been abandoned too and doesn't work anymore, because these systems are all for updooters. Audacium is also dead.
     
     "Free" software is dead in general. It's in an endless cycle of corporations taking over and ruining everything and idiots making excuses for it, and there is not enough will and enough competence to go around, to actually make replacements for it, that will of course just get taken over by corporations again.
     
     The amount of resistance to it is tiny. The "free software" people just make excuses for it. The FSF and the GNU project are perfectly fine with telemetry and spyware as long as it's GPL. They are perfectly fine with corporations taking all of their shit as long as it has the "right" loycense, and they don't mind dependencies that give corporations more control.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 10:18:18 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism Richard Stallman is writes a lot about the dangers of telemetry and spyware, it's the entire rest of the FSF and GNU cultists that go like "LALALALALA!! IT'S GPL, SO I DON'T CARE!!".
     
     In this sense, FSF cultists are basically the soycialist equivalent to WinDOS users:
     I've been keylogged? I don't care.
     The glowniggers are spying on me? I have nothing to hide.
     I'm bringing other people around me in danger by using WinDOS? Nah, happens.
     Even more telemetry and spyware added through WinDOS downdates? Oh well, so be it.
     Wait, the menu button got moved from the left to the center!? THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!!
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 10:31:42 JST xianc78

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     @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism @ryo Are there really that many jobs that don't let you program your own stuff in your free time? I know IBM does it, but I can't imagine any employer having a problem with me developing games as a hobby as long as it doesn't interfere with my job or the games have offensive content.

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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 10:31:43 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @ryo @TerminalAutism I'd argue the problem runs deeper than what license people put.
     
     There is an entire generation of programmers who don't give a shit about doing anything in their spare time, either because their wagecuck job told them they couldn't (and they fell for the "write this under your real name for resume shit" meme), or because they are that soulless that they have nothing else besides wagecucking it.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 10:33:37 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @xianc78 @TerminalAutism @ryo I know I've seen devs have to pause/halt work on things that are conflict of interest related (halting work on an emulator for old Macs after getting an Apple job), but IBM is the worst. I had someone tell me a MAME dev was stupid and didn't push his driver through MAME or use an alias before getting a job at IBM because IBM is anal about emulators (see Hercules).
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 10:34:47 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 @xianc78 @TerminalAutism Solution: just continue to work on your hobbies anonymously.
     Never reveal your real name and face with your hobbies, just stick to a nickname and an anime waifu avatar instead.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 11:26:07 JST 寮

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     @xianc78 @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 Not sure how it works in the west, but over here employers simply don't care if your hobby projects are of the same kind as your career ones.
     I once even made an invoice system just for friends and family in PHP while at the same time working on a NodeJS version at my back then full time job, and even cross-borrowed ideas and code (obviously translated between the 2 languages) between the 2, and the employees and employer even knew about that, no problem at all.
     
     As for Git stuff, I had to show my Git repo as proof that I know what I'm doing when I was a wagie, and I still have to as a freelancer now, but never publicly revealed my real name.
     Simply told them that it's me, and nobody asked any extra questions.
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 11:26:09 JST xianc78

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     @ryo @TerminalAutism Unless it's something that your boss doesn't care about. I highly doubt they would care if you make games in your free-time for one. As @PhenomX6 pointed out, it seems to be only a problem if it involves conflict of interests like emulators.

     A lot of programming jobs require that you have a few hobby programs on a GitHub account as a portfolio, so you do need at least SOME projects under your real name.

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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 11:53:18 JST xianc78

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     @ryo @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism The current job I'm training for doesn't seem to care about hobby projects. They don't require a Git portfolio, but I need to train on my own on algorithms and databases before I can actually work. (I need to act like I have 5 years of experience)

     Though I rather not let them know about my gamedev stuff just because of the social stigma around it more than anything. It's also the reason why I didn't choose to become a gamedev as a career.

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     @xianc78 @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism So in your case you can easily work on your game projects anonymously.
     Given that you never told your company that you're known as Xianc78 online that is.
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     ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 17:06:28 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??

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     @ryo @xianc78 @TerminalAutism True. I think the point I was making though is it seems like the age of the nerd coder is over and everyone wants to be a wagie or when they're not wage cucking it, consuming TV shows and alcohol.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 17:08:39 JST 寮

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     @PhenomX6 @xianc78 @TerminalAutism
     
     > the age of the nerd coder is over
     
     That's why if the state or the business doesn't allow you to do what you want, you just go underground.
     Which I think is among the real reasons why anonymity and privacy is under attack so much.
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     xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 17:08:58 JST xianc78

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     @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism @ryo I think the nerd coder age died because they were making a living off of shareware which is hardly ever used anymore.

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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 17:15:01 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo It's where they draw the line until the next version of Windows comes out, and then they move to the second to last version.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 17:16:13 JST Terminal Autism

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     @PhenomX6 @ryo Ultimately, the problem is that people don't actually care, about anything. Very few people actually care about freedom and very few people care about being independent from corporations, that always try to take it away.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 17:17:42 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @PhenomX6 Because very few people want to take responsibility for themselves, they want to be taken care of by somebody else.
     And they prefer to be lazy.
     Freedom involves self responsibility and hard work.
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     Dig Deeper (digdeeper@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 18:14:55 JST Dig Deeper

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     @TerminalAutism @ryo I am still waiting for the day when people realize that the profit motive is THE problem. The FSF has invited capitalists into the movement (e.g they are a partner for Mozilla), and we are supposed to be surprised that everything is going to shit? If profit (and not software quality) is the motive, are you surprised that software quality goes down and the things that give profit go up? FSF might be controlled opposition in this way, if they ignore the most important issue (or even pretend that making profit with FOSS is all clear). If you invite the capitalist parasites, of course they will take over. We need a parasite cleanse, getting rid of the capitalists, and fix not just the FOSS movement, but the whole world.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 20:31:38 JST 寮

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     @digdeeper @TerminalAutism In principle, capitalism is quality = profit.
     So if you make good stuff, you get paid for how much it's worth.
     But if your stuff is shit, you'll be kicked off the market.
     But since your average consoomer is retarded and they know it, they can pull this soycialist fake "capitalism" of "profit first, quality is an after thought".
     Just look at Crapple for example, even if they'd literally made ? and put an :kangaeruapple: logo on it, it'd still sell like hot cakes.
     
     In the case of organizations like the FSF, that's indeed something that should have been run by people with lots of free time (or on the side).
     Investors is what always destroys good initiatives, good businesses, good groups of people, good everything.
     Capitalism (freelancers, small businesses, and independent entrepreneurs) isn't the problem, the investors are what's making capitalists into a problem (massive bloated corporations, and government bootlickers).
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 20:37:48 JST 寮

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     @digdeeper @TerminalAutism Once companies get investor money, they are no longer going to give a fuck about the customers, because whether they make good stuff or not, they'll get their profits regardless.
     So if we get rid of the investors, which is really the parasite that destroys economies in the first place, you can easily make a world a better place without having to resort to stealing money from everybody else (soycialism) or slavery + sucking the poor dry to enrich the rich (communism).
     
     I recommend you take a look at the documentary called "Monopoly", I think you'll get to the same conclusion after seeing that.
     I actually lived in times where quality really mattered in order to make a profit, even though I was still a child at that time.
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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 20:48:30 JST Charliebrownau

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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper

     Most if not 99% of International corporations are Politcal Slushfund machines

     They dont operate like small business to run a profit and to produce a service or good

     They soly operate as a poltical funding machine

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     Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Sunday, 23-Oct-2022 20:48:59 JST Charliebrownau

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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper

     Real Captialism hasnt been attempted yet

     Is Capitalism :-
     * Payment using State forced Banking/Currency
     * State Forced Regulation
     * State Forced Rules
     * State Forced Safety
     * State Forced Licenses

     Is Capitalism :-
     * State Forced Min wage
     * State Forced Income Tax
     * State Forced Wage Tax
     * State Forced Payroll Tax

     Is Capitalism :-
     * State Forced Pregant Pay
     * State Forced Holiday Pay
     * State Forced Sick Pay

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     @charliebrownau @TerminalAutism @digdeeper No to all.
     In capitalism, when you make a profit, you win, but if you lose, your problem.
     In soycialism, when you make a profit, everybody else wins, but if you lose, everybody else's problem.
     
     What corporations in current year are is a very special kind of double standards; when you make a profit, you win, but if you lose, everybody else's problem.
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     Neither has real socialism since there's always some kind of market forces.
     
     That said, we don't need pure market economies or pure command economies to draw conclusions about which is better. Highly market economies and highly command economies exist, and when we compare like with like, the market economies produce more wealth and generally allow people to live more fulfilling lives.
     
     This is not to say that markets solve every problem or command economics are the source of every evil, but markets are still a dominat strategy.
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     Firstly, not gonna happen. It's not possible to erase corrupt motives or corrupt behaviour simply by getting rid of profit. No matter how economic decisions are made corrupt people will still exist and will be attracted to large and powerful institutions. The only question is how easy it is to replace them once they become infected. In general it's easier to get around corrupt organisations by replacement (markets) than reform (command).
     
     Secondly, the decline of FSF and Mozilla have less to do with economics and more to do with the culture they're swimming in (a very jewish one). No matter what economic system is in place it will still reflect the values of the people running it. If they're evil people then it will be evil.
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     That's because they're not the "get rid of corporations movement" they're the "free software movement."
     
     Their stated goal is to make software open source and subject to modification by end users. If end users choose not to then that's not their responsibility.
     
     Personally I think their strategy is pretty decent.
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     @Eiregoat @TerminalAutism Lots of common sense coming out of you, so I decided to send you a follow request.
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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Oct-2022 00:34:49 JST Udon

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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper
     Investors means government? Yeah definitely Google, M$ so on will be serving high quality services and do no evil things if there wasn't any government involved. Remove government and everything solves! Happy world.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Oct-2022 01:06:28 JST 寮

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     @udon @TerminalAutism @digdeeper This investor that controls the entire so-called "free market" is basically all you need to know to answer your question.
     So yes, investors means government.
     Money laundering on the one hand, and controlling propaganda on the other hand.
     Just look how every single company that started receiving BlackCock's money all of the sudden went woke, started supporting rainbow terrorism, stopped caring about quality and instead went profit-only mode, and so on.
     
     https://www.weforum.org/organizations/blackrock-inc
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper
     But companies can't become the Investors? Do companies really don't want to become powerful? Or what stops the companies from doing the same things as the big bad governments?
     
     I think the focus is wrong (that it's just _government_ bad and _government_ turns everything bad). The whole *ism movement has been ignoring that this is just a simple imbalance in power.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Oct-2022 02:58:59 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @digdeeper Maximizing profits generally requires minimizing everything else. Even when things were of better quality, it was still the bare minimum that they could get away with at the time, and still generally inferior to what came before.
     
     Meanwhile, if you look even at the USSR, things were generally not as fancy as western technology (that was used as a nice shiny bait to get people hooked on this system of slavery, while communism just used force), but were built to last for as long as possible, since profit wasn't a motivation and there wasn't an entire class of people around dedicating their time to fixing things for you.
     
     In a profit-based system, you need problems to solve, so you either have to make solutions temporary, or to actively create new problems. So there is no real progress on addressing people's issues. The thing that you buy today, you are going to have to buy again every couple years for the rest of your life (unless you buy used stuff that does last and is easy to fix, but most people are not knowledgeable enough to do that, and are addicted to newness, which is something else that this system does, on purpose).
     
     Corporate software as well, has to be made to be bloated and almost impossible to create replacements for. They want governments and other corporations, and the population in general (as young as possible, so they get that software to be used in the school system), to become depend on that software that can never be replaced.
     
     And then, they always need justifications for newer versions, so there always has to be some problem with it. Imagine if corporations made software to be simple. GNU could make an alternative for it, or Suckless, or the OpenBSD team, or anyone. It could also be made practically perfect and never really require a new version, so what would the corporation do? Send everyone home and close down? Saying "our job is done"? No, they need things to always be bad.
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     @charliebrownau @ryo @digdeeper There is no difference between capitalism and communism. At least the outcome is identical, even if the way there is a little different. That's why China loves both, and Israel loves both, and Klaus Schwab loves corporations but also loves Lenin and has a statue of him in his office. It's all the same shit. If you are even positively comparing one to the other, you have already failed to resist their mind control.
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     @udon @ryo @digdeeper The problem is that people don't understand what the problem is. The problem isn't with government specifically, or with companies. The problem is with too much power (and that includes wealth) in too few hands. That is the problem that creates a need for government in the first place, but that need isn't being fulfilled because people let government stray from its only acceptable function. It doesn't matter who has too much power, if anyone does, it will be abused, so no one should have it. Government should only exist for the purpose of preventing that. America was kind of an attempt of doing that, but the government eventually got taken over by the capitalists and the result is what you see now.
     
     Of course, it's also worth mentioning that when you merge government and corporate power, you have fascism, which is socialism. Fucking Mussolini himself said that fascism is the one true form of socialism. So, it's all the same shit, these ideologies are not really different from each other. And the only thing that people should want is avoiding every single one of them. Breaking all of their toys. Creating a system that prevents those other systems. I think the main thing to address in a new system would be corruption. Politicians should be the population's slaves. They should not allow to profit from anything ever, they should be forced to give away all of their property and live in fucking monasteries, like monks, and all of their actions should be severely restricted to a few very specific purposes.
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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Oct-2022 08:35:33 JST 寮

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     @TerminalAutism @digdeeper
     > but were built to last for as long as possible
     
     Literally everything was made to last for as long as possible in the 20th century.
     One example, Japan has never been under commie control, and yet companies have made stuff that are still in use perfectly fine today, like trains, and you'll find far more examples in the countryside, which often look like they've never been updated since the 1960s.
     
     Even stuff that are no longer in widespread use, like the Famicom or old IBM incompatible NEC computers can still be caught at Akihabara and can still be used perfectly fine today.
     
     Software-wise, come up with 10 games from between 1980 and 2006 that were considered good, you'll probably have your list overflowing in a matter of seconds.
     Now think of at least 4 games from between 2007 and current year, difficult to pick anything right?
     
     However, I do agree with the part when you said that current year proprietary soyware always needs to be bloated and always needs to break, it's the type of stuff I've been calling out for many years now.
     I need to go through interviews all the time because I'm a freelancer.
     Companies always want me to conduct them over either Zoom or Goolag Meet.
     Whenever I bring up Jitsi Meet, they just ignore it like if it doesn't even exist.
     Usually they'll use either Slack or Chatwork as a communication tool (because telework), when I bring up internal XMPP servers, it's "too difficult".
     And when I use a Linux laptop at a client's office, they go like either "what is a Linux?", or "are you from outer space or some shit?".
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     @Eiregoat @digdeeper @ryo Exactly. Ultimately, systems don't really matter. Any group, or organization, or society, is only as good as the people in it.
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     @TerminalAutism @udon @digdeeper
     > Government should only exist for the purpose of preventing that.
     
     Governments only exist for the purpose of becoming bigger and more powerful.
     Which is why I think that bringing people to self-governance (anarchy) and dropping all the labels people have attached to themselves since 1945 is the only true thing that prevents all of that.
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     Terminal Autism (terminalautism@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 24-Oct-2022 10:52:53 JST Terminal Autism

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     @ryo @digdeeper A lot of stuff was. Particularly when electronics were expensive to make regardless, and consumerism wasn't as strong, so you really had to convince people to buy things even though they were expensive. Still, if you look at cars, as an example, a lot of western cars did not hold up as well as Soviet cars, that were just built with all stat points dumped in durability and all skill points dumped in healing.
     
     As far as I can tell, when the west peaked, there was a balance between making things reliable but also nice, and making them nice required a little more complexity, which reduces reliability at least a bit. While the Soviet stuff that I looked at prioritized simplicity even more.
     
     Also worth mentioning that Japan surpassed the west and made better stuff than pretty much any other country. The people that I heard talk about it seem to agree that Japanese technology peaked in the late 80s and early 90s. Also worth mentioning that Japanese cars from that time are still great to have, while their western counterparts are more likely to be money pits.
     
     Anyway, for the most part, quality really went downhill in the 90s, though in the 80s, things were already being made cheaper, though still good by today's very low standards. The 90s being the first real decade of cheap crap had the advantage that we were able to have computers back in the day when maybe we couldn't have before, but the quality of a lot of stuff was absolutely atrocious. Even good stuff, like video game consoles, were getting complicated enough to be less reliable, particularly because of optical drives (though you can just mod all that away, today).
     
     Hell, I was born in the early 90s and already grew up with shitty rubber dome keyboards, while a few years earlier people were using real switches. In the case of IBM, before rubber domes, buckling springs, that were an inferior and cheaper version of capacitive buckling springs, that were a cheaper and arguably inferior version of beamspring switches.
     
     So, you could already see the trend back then. It doesn't help that back in the day, computers got so much faster so quickly that replacing components somewhat often was actually worth it. And nowadays people still replace computers all the time, but there is no need for that at all, because the growth is not nearly as crazy as it used to be.
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     A big thing to keep in mind is how our markets are so badly warped, not free markets at all.
     
     The reason that there's so many investors with so much money to throw at useless crap is that the government created stuff like central banks, bank insurance, deposit insurance, and so on that allow money to be pumped out without any regard for the risk of an investment.
     
     All this money is trying to find a place to grow, so it all goes into index funds, and if you can get your stock on there, you're golden.
     
     This is all a result of "make the numbers go up at all times", because if the numbers didn't always go up because the state wasn't propping everything up, then capital would only grow if it was smart and chased smart profitable works, which is a lot harder than just creating unlimited money and letting it slosh everywhere.
     
     I suspect we're going to see this hard if central banks continue to reduce liquidity to fight inflation.
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper Technically, investors are capitalists (they are the ones with capital).
     This book might be interesting to you: https://www.minorcompositions.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/MarketsNotCapitalism-web.pdf

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     @udon @TerminalAutism @digdeeper @ryo Google started out as a CIA project. Facebook started out as a DARPA project (look up LifeLog). Microsoft got it's power thanks to intellectual "property" laws (which wouldn't exist in real capitalism). Big Tech is a government creation.

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     And when I use a Linux laptop at a client’s office, they go like either “what is a Linux?”, or “are you from outer space or some shit?”.

     You said you only had Linux when you grew up, right? Isn’t Linux less common in Japan than the United States or anywhere else?

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     > You said you only had Linux when you grew up, right?
     
     Yes.
     
     > Isn’t Linux less common in Japan than the United States or anywhere else?
     
     It is.
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     Yes and then? Government are not bad just because of the label "government". They are also not god-sents and they are just mortals. What I wanted to say is anyone that got powerful enough will effectively become that government that we *ists hate so much. It does not matter what *ism is (that the government declared), but people always promote that some system (be it communism, ancap, ...) magically solves the problem. I am going to be rude but I think the *ism promoters are likely either just government/big-tech-wannabe (which is understandable and legit, but they are not honest to admit) or blind followers.
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     @ryo @digdeeper @udon People would use that self-governance to form a government to deal with various problems in an organized way, and then it would grow into a dictatorship because they wouldn't restrict its function only to the basics. It's what already happened in prehistory. If you don't prevent a problem from happening, it will keep happening again, no matter how many times you treat the symptoms.
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     Being a Japanese person and growing up with Linux must be rarer than anything in a gacha game.
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     @Burn @TerminalAutism @digdeeper I think it's pretty rare all over the world.
     It's only now with millenials moving away from WinDOS to Linux that the upcoming generation might possible be more likely to grow up with Linux.
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     @Burn @ryo @digdeeper It must be absurdly rare. Growing up with Linux is rare even in countries where Linux is much more common. I looked it up, and some charts say that about 2% of the population of Japan uses Linux. How many of them use it for personal computers, I don't know, but presumably not many, because even that sounds like it may be too high. But the people that actually grew up with it may be 1% of that 2%, and also, I think fewer people in Japan use actual computers. Maybe still not more rare than growing up with BSD anywhere else. No idea.
     
     But in Japan BSD seems to be comparatively less rare, to the point that FreeBSD and NetBSD even have Japanese websites. The chart that includes more OSs doesn't say the percentages, or even what the OSs are, but I assume that the one after Linux in size is FreeBSD, and it looks like it should be about 1.5%, and assuming that the next one is NetBSD, the two combined surpass Linux. This looks old, though, since it has Windows 10, but not 11, and 7 is still way more popular than 10, which has probably changed. I also think Linux probably got a little more popular just like it did everywhere else, though probably not quite as much.
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     @TerminalAutism @Burn @digdeeper I'm not sure actually, I know just a select few Japanese people who have even heard of Linux at all (and it's mostly either Red Hat, or CentOS, or Ubuntu, or Manjaro, even though AlterLinux is a Made in Japan distro), 95% of which are people on Tor-only communities.
     But I never heard or read any of my fellow countrymen who knows BSD with the exception of 2 people (excluding myself): loli frog, and some guy on BLACK II (or was it Tor板v3? Can't remember).
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     @pancakewwwww @digdeeper @TerminalAutism State capitalism = soycialism pretending to be capitalism.
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     Intentions don't matter. There was never socialism, only different iterations of state capitalist economies.
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     @Hyolobrika @TerminalAutism @digdeeper "Let's write a book just to make a point."
     Investors are soycialist parasites who are there to take down free markets and make it all centrally planned.
     Capitalism IS free market economy, communism is state controlled economy.
     
     Though I like how the writer of that book comically tried to merge libertarianism, communism, individualism, and anarchy into 1, which is basically like trying to say that a palm tree, a nuclear bomb, a pine tree, and a "regular" tree are all trees.
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     Yeah, something like that. If people who claimed to want to build socialist society actually built just another iteration of state capitalism, there is no reason to trust lefties at all.
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     @pancakewwwww @TerminalAutism @digdeeper The whole left/right access is basically a scam.
     It used to have a meaning: want free money in exchange for your freedoms, go left, want to work your ass off to maintain your freedoms, go right.
     But not the left has swung so far to the left, even if you're 100% leftie, but only refuse to take the 4th covAIDS lethal injection after having had 3 of them, that's more than enough to be considered a "right wing extremist" nowadays.
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     @pancakewwwww @TerminalAutism @digdeeper We're living in an consciousness created world filled with egoists, not because it's natural, but rather people humans have been trained like that for at least 200 years.
     
     Intentions do actually matter, but are meaningless if actions are the exact opposite of that.
     Likewise I could say that actions don't matter if intentions are different.
     
     Look at Antifa for example, their action was being ultra-fascists, burning, murdering, and looting all over 1 specific country, the brainwashed useful idiots thought their intention was to promote equal rights for people with different skin colors, but the real intention was that it was ultimately a money laundering campaign, which has been reflected by the actions by the higher ups.
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     And intention do not really matter but actions do.
     And if people of capitalist society usually pursue their own egoistic goals making society better and richer in the result, "professional" socialist revolutionaries pursuing "free society of total equality" always build totalitarian quasi-feudal tyrannies.
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     @xianc78 @PhenomX6 @TerminalAutism @ryo i had a contract like that and the general consensus is that in most jurisdictions this is unenforceable

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     @pancakewwwww @digdeeper @ryo I think it's hilarious how every single ist, regardless of the ism, says that their ism has never been tried. They have all been tried, and now we have a system that is essentially all of them combined, which is the worst possible system.
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     @ryo @Burn @digdeeper Well, clearly, they exist, because I have seen plenty of results in Japanese when looking for BSD stuff (and Emacs too, actually, for some mysterious reason). Still, Linux is more popular than FreeBSD is individually. Also, I have seen a manga that taught Linux, but I doubt that one that teaches FreeBSD exists at all. Then again, I wouldn't be that surprised.
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     https://fuguita.org/
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     @ryo @pancakewwwww @digdeeper That comes from real capitalism, after the capitalists took over everything and bought out the governments. Which is what would happen again in "true capitalism". Capitalists will do anything for profit, and that includes ruining as many lives as it takes, destroying the competition, brainwashing and dumbing down the population, repeatedly poisoning people to make money "treating" them, and buying out the institutions that are supposed to restrict them in the first place. It's arguably more cancerous than communism. Hell, communist governments tend to be run as for-profit corporations anyway. Look at China.
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     No, it has to be government contaminating the pure good capitalists!!!
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     @udon @xianc78 @digdeeper @ryo In the end, it's all about distribution of power, and restrictions on those that have too much of it, to bring them down to an acceptable level. Another part of the problem is that generally, the only people that want power are the worst people. So my suggestion is to create a system where having any power requires enormous personal sacrifices and basically being a slave. It should be as unappealing to greedy people as possible.
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     @TerminalAutism @digdeeper @ryo @xianc78
     I guess we both understand it... And do you have a site? I think it is very tiresome to type and repeat the same thing again and again.
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     @udon @digdeeper @ryo @xianc78 I don't, though I do plan to make one because of exactly that. That and Odysee videos ( https://odysee.076.ne.jp/@TerminalAutism:5 ). I have made videos, but it has been pretty random (and I posted things that I didn't make as well), and I still haven't made anything making actual arguments, but that was a big reason to make videos in the first place. Though I do have some stuff recorded that goes more in that direction.
     
     I think I should turn things that I post online into articles, and then use the articles to make videos, immediately after writing them so it's still fresh in my mind, because I can only communicate through rambling, and even that took some effort to develop. If I have to think about what I'm saying while I say it, I can't do it. Anyway, that may be the best thing for me to do. Comments → articles → videos.
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     @TerminalAutism @Burn @digdeeper @ryo
     Ugh, forget about it. Pinged www.google.com and time.cloudflare.com on start.
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     @TerminalAutism @udon @ryo @xianc78
     
     Yes, so we come back to the issue of money giving someone infinite power. Seriously, can you tell me of a way to have a system where power is limited, but money exists? Since money allows you influence anything in all possible ways, including getting people to do whatever you want since money is required for survival. I can direct this question to any ancap that's lurking here, as well.
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     @digdeeper @TerminalAutism @udon @xianc78 The money is fiat currencies rather.
     Anything that can be printed up endlessly is going to lead to a power grab eventually.
     The white pill would be that the bigger the power grab, the bigger the push back, and the bigger the push back, the quicker the collapse.
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     > State Socialism and Anarchism
     > one of the original anarchists
     
     Already conflicting terms.
     First off, there is no such a thing as "anarchism", just "anarchy", which literally only means "lack of government".
     Everything that gets added to it is most likely a psyop.
     
     Also, how the fuck do you even manage to put "state soycialism", or even "state" by itself with "anarchy"?
     It's either state (government), or anarchy (no government), you can't have both.
     Also, soycialism is literally the state stealing money from other people, it can only work in soycieties where not merit, but collectivism (which defies merit) matters.
     
     So here's a suggestion: why won't you come up with your own ideas instead of relying on books or videos or something else that doesn't require any thinking of your own?
     Sure, you can use them as a reference or source or whatever, the problem is rather in blindly following somebody else's believes systems.
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper It's a collection of essays, not a single writing by a single author.

     Why don't you read some of it before making a judgement based on (wrong) semantics?
     I recommend "State Socialism and Anarchism: How Far They Agree, and Wherein They Differ" by Benjamin Tucker, one of the original anarchists.

     Wtf is a "regular tree"?

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     @digdeeper @TerminalAutism @udon @xianc78 Fuck, I'm drunk...
     
     > The money is fiat currencies rather.
     
     should be
     
     > The problem is fiat currencies rather.
     
     Because "problem" in Japanese is "問題" (mondai), so it looks like "money", and was thinking in 2 languages while typing somehow.
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     @ryo @TerminalAutism @digdeeper @udon People don't realize that anything can be used as a money. The ideal ancap society would probably use something like gold or silver (which cannot be created unless you can add/remove protons from atoms) for money or just use simple bartering in some cases. There will probably be parallel markets, each accepting their own money.

     Money is just an extension of the barter system which seems to be innate within humans. Even primates barter food for services like picking lice.

     And before anyone brings up "primitive communism" nonsense, hunter-gather societies didn't distribute goods "in each according to his need". Food was distributed on a borrowing or lending basis. Food was given only to those who would do something in return. People who worked more often earned more food and had more priority. So yeah, it was basically a barter system. They even bartered with other tribes.

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     We dont need Silver, Gold , Copper or any mineral for money

     It needs to be printed on paper and minted for coins based on HOURS

     Thats the only honest currency

     Gold Standard and Silver Standard is still shift and central bank controlled

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     @charliebrownau @xianc78 @TerminalAutism @digdeeper @udon What if you just print these work hour papers by yourself?
     Yet another currency system gone to waste...
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     @digdeeper @ryo @udon @xianc78 No existing system addresses that. But the one that I invented maybe could. A system where people in power are not allowed to profit from their positions, and have to give away their rights to the population and live in political monasteries for the rest of their lives. Basically, a system where people with political power are slaves to the population.
     
     Power only being obtainable with proof of total selflessness, and even then only being usable to maintain the population's freedom and fight off entities that would take it away. It may sound extreme, but so far, compromises haven't worked, they create too many openings. This is just a basic idea, of course, not a complete system.
     
     I think the choice may be between the population having freedom OR the people in power having freedom, but it can never be both. They say that with power comes responsibility, but right now, the population has all the responsibility and none of the power, while they have all the power and none of the responsibility. Total imbalance.
     
     No other system even attempts to address this, it's always "just trust the people in power to be good even though they never are because those positions of power appeal to greedy psychopaths". Invert it. Make those positions as unappealing as possible.
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     @ryo @charliebrownau @digdeeper @udon @xianc78 I can see it already, 100 trillion Zimbabwean/Venezuelan hours being sold on eBay as collector items, for 4 American/European hours.
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     @ryo @digdeeper @udon @xianc78 I know that word from the Di Gi Charat opening. ２０００年問題より・・・自分の夢！
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     @TerminalAutism @digdeeper @udon @xianc78 I prefer no collectivist system at all, so basically a system of "respect others and be yourself".
     Collectivist systems are all designed to prevent you from being yourself and to turn everybody else's problems into your problem, and your problem into everybody else's problem.
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     @xianc78 @ryo @digdeeper @udon I disagree. I used to be for a gold standard, but I changed my mind. It's a horrible idea. Think about it. Who would have the power? The people that own all the gold. So, the people that already own the world. Silver is a little better, but still, similar problem. Maybe we should just use rounds of ammo, that could be a good currency!
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     @TerminalAutism @xianc78 @digdeeper @udon Ammo would be more an instant justice system rather.
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     >Maybe we should just use rounds of ammo, that could be a good currency!

     My Dad told me I should invest in lead because people would be manufacturing bullets when the economy collapses.

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     @xianc78 @digdeeper @ryo @udon That is a smart idea. When things are not going well, there are certain resources that become more valuable, and lead should be one of them.
     
     But yeah, I do think that something like ammo could be a good option, as long as it's worth what it's actually worth, and not some arbitrary value, and as long as anyone can manufacture it. Inflation would be limited by the manufacturing cost, and at some point making more of it simply wouldn't be worth it. There may be some horrible flaws with that idea, though. I would have to think about it a lot more.
     
     Using certain foods, rice was used in the past, could also work, because anyone can grow it, but if it's too abundant and loses too much value, people won't grow as much of it and will also consume more. So, inflation is actually quite difficult. The problem with doing that nowadays is obvious, though, like needing a truckload of rice to pay for anything.
     
     Honestly, I think fiat can work, if done correctly. First of all, get rid of fractional reserve banking, and of the "Federal Reserve". Here is an idea that I had one day and saved:
     
     "I had an idea in the shower today, though, that could eliminate all government debt AND inflation. And the idea was… print enough money to pay all the debt, and then implement a tax for banks that scales with inflation. The higher the inflation, the bigger the tax. And the money collected from that tax is destroyed. When it gets to 0% inflation, then the tax will be 0%. That will force the banks to keep inflation low and to not lend too much. Oh, and ban fractional reserve banking. So, they can only lend what they actually have. No more. No creating money from nothing. If done right, this would pay off all the debt, and it would reduce the inflation to zero. Well, if I'm right, at least."
     
     The Jew hates this idea.
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     @icedquinn @digdeeper @ryo @udon You should always expect bad things to happen when there are too many humans in one place, or involved in anything. Too much competition for land and resources creates a need for institutions, and then those institutions are never designed in a way that prevents abuse, and then unsurprisingly, abuse happens. Power-hungry maniacs take them over and use them for world domination.
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     @TerminalAutism @udon @digdeeper @ryo if permaculturalists are to be believed (and etymology) the root of government is food distribution.
     
     when the human population exceeds the forager capacity of the region they have to switch to actively managed methods which then introduces the entire cavalcade of distribution officers, storage technicians, guards, ...