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   BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:01:14 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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   If you're an older millennial or gen X without kids, you're out of touch with how big of a difference there is between the way we grew up and what's been going on for kids today. All the tropes that we learned were repackaged versions of classics— Aesop's fables, Brother's Grimm, Hans Christian Anderson, The Greek and Roman myths, etc. Everything today is inversion and there's no cultural inertia carrying forward stories of heroes journeys or good, beautiful, and true. It is girlboss and endlessly iterative cartoons made to sell toys. A proper close can never happen, because that implies a beginning and end and limits marketing and refresh ability. Nothing can be permanent in a year zero society. This is where we are today in almost all Western media.
   
   And then you get to anime. The girls are cute, the heroes are heroic, the quests are cool, and there's that feeling of familiarity repackaged in a different medium. There's no desire to make every character "queer" or otherwise flawed in some 21st century collapsed culture sort of way. They draw heavily from Eastern and Western classics, and they're not afraid to present traditionalism in a positive light. Joseph Campbell would appreciate their heroes journey, unlike what The West typically produces today. It's not all good quality, but there's so much of it produced that it's like a giant extremely rich mine. You still have the neverending stories of Shonen Jump, but they are generally enjoyable even if they give off a similar vibe to the Saturday morning cartoons of my childhood.
   
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     dictatordave (dictatordave@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:02:25 JST dictatordave

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     @BowsacNoodle @Stagg_3751 strip the childless of rights for 10 years and watch things improve
     
     no stake in the future, no rights handed out
     
     and no rights at all for single mothers, ever
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:04:12 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @dictatordave @Stagg_3751 I'd settle on removing votes for the childless over land ownership in the current era. Land used to mean skin in the game, because having children was an obvious implicit part of life for most people. It's so screwed up how far we've fallen.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:07:25 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Stagg_3751 SoL is a consequence of leftist propaganda; it is appealing to view even manufactured or shallow normalcy in a world so screwed up. Older sci-fi asked questions we now pretend don't need to be asked, particularly on ethics, and anime often delves heavily into that territory. Don't write off the medium because you don't see the best of it.
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     Stagg_3751 (stagg_3751@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:07:26 JST Stagg_3751

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     @BowsacNoodle I'm an younger millennial (27), I just have a stronger preference for gore flicks or old Sci-Fi more than anything else when I decide to watch something. At worst I see the moe shit/SoL preference as a consequence of leftist propaganda, but that's about it.
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     Stagg_3751 (stagg_3751@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:27:31 JST Stagg_3751

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     @BowsacNoodle >SoL is a consequence of leftist propaganda; it is appealing to view even manufactured or shallow normalcy in a world so screwed up.
     I was thinking more like how it's okay to like girly looking cartoons but somehow liking gore films or horror is bad because "it makes me feel icky". Absolutely mental.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:27:31 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Stagg_3751 Same logic still applies.
     >World is dysfunctional and things look bleak.
     >Do I lean into the grotesque or avoid it?
     I don't assume that everyone who likes horror and gore is screwed up, and you shouldn't assume all casual escapism is weakness. sometimes it's nice to have background noise not full of the grotesque.
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     Stagg_3751 (stagg_3751@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:58:09 JST Stagg_3751

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     @BowsacNoodle I view feeling pain at watching horror films or seeing them as "trauma-inducing" like many seem to these days to be a sign of weakness.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Mar-2024 23:58:09 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @Stagg_3751 I seldom watch horror movies or gore because I don't enjoy it. it does not disturb me or induce "trauma", but it's not fulfilling for its own sake. It's salad dressing to me—I like caeser salads, but I'm not interested in drinking the dressing by itself. But if you're interested in that, you do you. There's days Chinese industrial accident videos you could watch for authentic content too.
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     EnnaComa (ennacoma@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 01:44:32 JST EnnaComa

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     @BowsacNoodle @Stagg_3751 I just rewatched Tommy Boy last night with the wife, and that's a solid observation. As stupid as the movie is, the end scene where Farley's on his dinghy monologuing to his dead father is a feel good scene. Its the ending, wrapping up the story of carrying on legacy and making your pops proud. There are no endings anymore, nothing, just emptiness.
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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 01:49:24 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @H_A_Copington @Stagg_3751 I forgot about nihilism. EVERYTHING Western is drenched in nihilism. Rejection of the idea of meaning and virtue allows 'ironic' depictions of wickedness to be presented as hip and cool instead of fake and gay.
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     H. A. Copington (h_a_copington@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 01:49:25 JST H. A. Copington

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     @BowsacNoodle @Stagg_3751 Gore is a cheap way to make your work seem transgressive, edgy, or adult. Adding in sexuality and making everything feel icky and perverse appeals to people who only understand adulthood as "Ah now I can indulge in vices."
     
     There is a reason I refuse to watch The Boys and it's not because I'm particularly squeamish, I just find that level of subversion and nihilism to be off-putting. I felt the same way about the Final Destination and Saw films. Although I do admit to watching the Making Of of the former because I think practical effects are cool.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 03:12:01 JST djsumdog

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     Lately I've been watching a lot more anime. Even if I download western movies, I try to stick to things made before 2018. Very little that has been produced recently has been any good. There are a few rare gems like Land (2021), but most of it has turned to pure rubbish.

     I even liked the first season of Halo, but the 2nd season has had more cultural wreckage seeping in. There has to be a gay man dating a disabled blind former Spartan who is a minority. The fucking Admiral gave his pep talk and said "Women and men" .. the women first is clearly intention, even though women rarely ever serve in combat roles in real life because they would literally get murdered faster unless they were behind a gun, tank or other weapon that augmented their clear physical disadvantage.

     I regret not applying for JET and teaching in Japan while I was younger, just so I could at least understand more of it in the face of issues with newer localization problems/drama (possibly creating a whole new era of fan subs).

     I wonder if in the 2060s, people will look back at western media and make fun of some of the stupid cliche/trope stuff in the same way we do with spaghetti westerns from decades ago.

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     BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 03:12:34 JST BowserNoodle ☦️

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     @djsumdog @Stagg_3751 >I wonder if in the 2060s, people will look back at western media and make fun of some of the stupid cliche/trope stuff in the same way we do with spaghetti westerns from decades ago.
     I think about this a lot.
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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 04:31:30 JST djsumdog

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     I'm against burning any media. Big Mouth should be a warning of just how terrible our entertainment has gotten. I watched two seasons and in the 2nd, they literally fought shame as if it were a god. The death of shame was considering a good thing. (Shame is literally one of the principal ways morals are built and decided upon in a society. You can say some shames are good/bad, like we should shame people for wearing useless face diapers, but removing shame entirely means you literally cannot have foundations)

     I always say read the books others want to burn, and then make your own decisions. For example, conservatives should really read Gender Queer. Everyone shows the two pages with the strap-on, but if you actually read the book, you understand it's a very long religious tract with a call to question at the end. It's super creepy and super interesting.

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     Dudebro (dudebro@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 04:31:31 JST Dudebro

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     If we even allow this shit to survive. One thing the internet has made abundantly clear is how easy it is to erase media. This media deserves to be burnt as the Nazis burnt degeneracy back in the day. Things such as Big mouth is of no cultural significance or value and only is a means to subvert and destroy morality.
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     H. A. Copington (h_a_copington@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 14-Mar-2024 06:54:05 JST H. A. Copington

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     @BowsacNoodle @Stagg_3751 It's the sort of "I'm going to portray a 1950s family but they're actually all gay and addicted to drugs" attitude that shitlib writers think is so original. Everyone is trying to add as much grimdarkness, fuckery, and violence to everything that it becomes meaningless. Which is oddly meta.
     
     Anime girl for your time.