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   Ron Dyck (dyckron@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 08:45:01 JST Ron Dyck

   Gen Z, elder millennials experiencing 'dramatic decline' in engagement at work, Gallup says
   https://fortune.com/2024/03/05/gen-z-elder-millennials-disengaged-gallup-poll-genx-boomers/

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 08:45:00 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @dyckron @blogdiva
     Can’t help but wonder how this poll stacks up against the findings of this more careful research:
     https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112015527382333823

     “Simply put, an individual’s age and historical time period explain work motivation, while his or her generational membership does not.”

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 11:05:07 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @dyckron @msbellows @blogdiva
     Moreover, the specific point of the study I posted is not to debunk generational cohorts per se, but rather to say that:

     1. people born in all time periods are generally less excited about work when they’re younger,

     2. people of all ages right now are generally less excited about work than people at the same age used to be in the past, and

     3. that fully explains the data; there’s no generational effect here.

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     Ron Dyck (dyckron@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 11:05:10 JST Ron Dyck

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     @msbellows @inthehands @blogdiva I think the resistance is to the idea that unique attributes can be imputed to being part of a single cohort rather than a certain age.

     Like this:
     "'Millennials don't really want to work. They're far too focused on avocado toast and chai lattes!' Just one of the many clichés expressed by workers over the age of 50."

     https://phys.org/news/2024-01-baby-boomers-gen-alpha-sociology.html

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     M.S. Bellows, Jr. (msbellows@c.im)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 11:05:11 JST M.S. Bellows, Jr.

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     • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

     @inthehands @dyckron @blogdiva What is "generation" if not "age and historical time period," though? E g., aren't "boomers" and "teens and twenties during the 1960s" basically the same thing?

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:53:36 JST Paul Cantrell

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     @msbellows @dyckron @blogdiva
     Our tendency to think in categories and to use categories as identities does have a sinister side, yes.

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     Ron Dyck (dyckron@mstdn.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:53:37 JST Ron Dyck

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     @inthehands @msbellows @blogdiva Schröder does cast doubt on the overall trend

     "The second reason why we (want to) believe in generations seems to be 'generationalism'—a new '-ism' that offers an overly simplified way of explaining the world ... it allows us to see our social group as better than another, which makes us feel good about ourselves. But thinking in '-isms' is dangerous and ... [i]f we're not careful, we end up using unsupported generalizations that have no foundation in reality"

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     M.S. Bellows, Jr. (msbellows@c.im)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Mar-2024 12:53:37 JST M.S. Bellows, Jr.

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     @dyckron @inthehands @blogdiva This risks veering off-topic, but I hypothesize that humans' tendency to firm in-groups and out-groups is rooted in evolutionary biology. I'm curious whether the "-isms" and generational distinctions we're discussing actually are as inbuilt as conservatives' nationalism and racism, and if so, what the wise political strategy is.