AnarchoNinaWrites
I mean look, this is Baby's First Manufacturing Constent stuff but it really shouldn't shock you to hear that everything on your TV, everything in your movies, most aspects of your popular culture are in fact riddled with capitalist, reactionary propaganda.
Who makes movies? Is it broke ass anarchists like you and I? No. So the people who PAY to make movies, are ALSO the people who buy your Senators, and craft model laws to lock in capitalist hellworld. They CHOOSE what makes it to the screen.
AnarchoNinaWrites
There is literally an entire office of the Department of Defense devoted completely to screening movie scripts that talk about the US military and changing them to remove negative connotations. They mostly use access to American military locations and hardware as the carrot that gives them the "right" as a "stakeholder" to do this - but if you go off the grid and just make your own movie, they'll pressure your studio to change the scripts too.
That's real man.
AnarchoNinaWrites
You aren't getting funding for the "Eat the Rich and Fuck Imperialism" movie, and if you do get funding, the studios will lock you out, and if you do manage to trick a studio into publishing a movie that works against the interests of the rich investors who own everything, your movie will struggle to get distribution, and even if you manage to jump all those hoops, your movie will be ignored by the critics until they HAVE to respond, and then they'll trash it
It's called "the propaganda model."
Oggie
@AnarchoNinaWrites Still better than HUAC and the blacklist, because at the current situation you can be a bit critical and even have the instutitions be corrupt (as long as you show them as being duped, not institutionally so, with a few 'bad apples').
It's not great, but it's a far cry from Hayes code shit, at least.
Still, I do think it's funny that anyone thinks movies are liberal. Every film ever released in theaters gets greenlit by boards of old white straight men.
Ricardus
@AnarchoNinaWrites Michael Moore used to think he was doing that, and was shocked that the corporations funded him in the beginning (considering an anti-GM cars movie put him on the map).
But he never went THAT hard against capitalism.
Now that more and more people are actually SAYING the word CAPITALISM (is bad) out loud, I suspect his funding is drying up. He hasn't made a film since 2018 and that one was a bit all over the place.
Matthew Merkovich
@AnarchoNinaWrites Corollary trivia: when Tony Scott directed the movie CRIMSON TIDE, the DOD wouldn’t cooperate because it criticized the security of the nuclear weapons program. Tony then had to steal all the shots of submarines breaching.
AnarchoNinaWrites
@GNUmatic @ciggysmokebringer No, it's a word that's been around for quite a while and is well known on the American left. But it does capture the concept pretty well, don't it? :)
Ciggy Bringer of Smoke
Everyone laughs at taking our artistic power back because it can't be done at distributed scale to simply replace what is all around us, but I really do think that ya know...maybe shitty little Anarchistic Dork films are still easily better than Shemar Moore in another CBS Copaganda Show (even as I fan myself because Shemar is Shemar who I must tell you, will not be in any shitty little Anarchist Dork films, I've asked)
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
@ciggysmokebringer @AnarchoNinaWrites
Did you just invent "Copaganda"?
[ starts to dance ]
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
@ciggysmokebringer @AnarchoNinaWrites
Besides keeping the consumer purely passive, consuming and craving for more junk food, it's also a neat trick to keep it industrial, isn't it. Well - to some extent, stuff on YouTube shows you could get away with your smartphone camera. Not that expensive. You already got one. 🥳
Ciggy Bringer of Smoke
Aha, the common current of our times - a spectator watching spectacle with seeming perilous little else to look towards!
Ciggy Bringer of Smoke
There's a whole side convo here about how the ability to capture image (even moving image) in greater and greater fidelity has changed story telling where there's a cart/horse dynamic almost - if you can see all the plastic shards and steel crunching and it has dramatic impact at this point, are you obligated to do so? Why can't you let the audience fill in the details between human emotion telling you the event through them?
There's this concept of verisimilitude, the appearance of reality despite it not being reality (and all of us playing along in the audience), and then attendant surreality of trying to present this appearance of reality in all its nitty gritty detail almost down to the molecule as the point of the exercise and audience experience.
It's really bad in gaming by the way, the chase for realism within an obvious abstraction of it because the tools seemingly allow more and more fidelity of detail. Some will say it's very immersive or more immersive at which point, I must insist I am not in that audience playing games for immersive reasons, but so the ecosystem goes.
There's a good argument that cruder tools create better stories by the limits imposed requiring creativity on how to surmount those limits, where as hyper fidelity winds up being an false articulation of reality without creative story telling tapped on.
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
@ciggysmokebringer @AnarchoNinaWrites
May make sense for gaming, but movies really went astray. You aren't following a story. With Marvel and crap you're just a spectator watching spectacle. Not always, mind you. There's still the oddball "Parasite" from the far east, but that's a kind of story telling Hollywood lost and all in all it's even less expensive to do nowadays. At least in production. Eats time for the script, though...
Ⓐ Dirk Ritter
@ciggysmokebringer @AnarchoNinaWrites
Thanks a lot! 🥰
Back to Hollywood:
Car crash? Camera follows car from multiple angels, you see EVERYTHING in slow-mo with decent FX.
Glorious, expensive as hell, but your brain shut off a minute ago.
In the past:
man on street tries to jump away
driver behind wheel raises arms, stares horrified, screeching sound, a bang
man on street lies in front of smoking car
Three static shots - your brain did all the rest.
(Yesss! There is hope!) 🥳
Ciggy Bringer of Smoke
Tis a gift passed to me, that I pass unto you!
VoxofGod
I feel like it can be done by doing sort of the bizarro version of reactionary
That's a big reason I chose opera going back to old forms that people respond to more viscerally that are being ignored for mass manipulation
Simply no opera around and even mediocre singing that is done on amplified with that intent in mind will draw people because there is a completely underserved demographic of humanity that is wired to go batshit crazy for acoustic human voice
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