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   narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 00:20:41 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     000a (000a@morale.ch)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 07:12:06 JST 000a

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     @hj@shigusegubu.club @a1ba@suya.place what's the tldr behind why webp is bad?
     
     Something about Israeli tracking you?
     
     All I've seen is that it does animated images better than apng and gif lol

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     @000a @a1ba it's only slightly better than jpeg/(a/m)png/gif and sometimes performs worse in terms of perceived quality, but it nonetheless was forced by Google onto everyone because it made google dot com load 22ms faster, and for a while ONLY chromium-based browsers supported is. To make matters worse, google uses same reasoning people pushed against webp to push against other formats like FLIF "It's not that better than webp".
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 07:14:06 JST Sexy Moon

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     @hj @000a @a1ba its kinda good because you can do lossy transparent animated images and they are a lot smaller
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 07:16:13 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon @000a @a1ba you can do same with APNGs, they can be optimized really REALLY well, and look better than webp. I would still use GIFs though as it's much easier to assume that gif is animated, unlike both webp and png where there's literally no way to programmatically tell if image is animated or not without literally looking into its bytes which is often not an option in CORS world.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 07:20:13 JST Sexy Moon

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     @hj @000a @a1ba I have to deal with images in my code at work and the main problem with webp is that the tooling is poor. you can't assume a gif is animated or transparent, you just have to load it. its easier to determine if a gif is transparent , tons of png have an alpha layer and then don't use it. the way I deal with that is I check all four corners of the image to see if any are actually-transparent
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 07:23:52 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @Moon @000a @a1ba i can assume gif is animated because vast majority of people use gif only for animated images. Yes, gif can be not animated but that's an outlier. Transparency does not matter for my case. I just find it extremely annoying that there's is NO WAY to get ANY information about an image even if it came from "trusted" source, browser obviously knows that it need to animate an image or not but there's no API exposed for it.
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     ~BitBun~ :bunRetro: (bitbun@raru.re)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 08:08:42 JST ~BitBun~ :bunRetro:

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     @hj @000a @a1ba Curious about your thoughts on AVIF (barring the fact that it's still being adopted)?

     I recently went down this image format rabbit hole for my site, and found a general preference towards AVIF for the kinds of content I am serving.

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 08:09:28 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @BitBun @000a @a1ba I heard it's good but dunno about adoption. Google might refuse to adopt it because its not better than webp or sumshit.
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     @hj @000a @a1ba Seems present in Chrome: https://caniuse.com/avif

     I've had a good experience with it for photo-like pictures. Though, I imagine it basically just depends on the kind of image you're serving. If I'm going to use something I would usually reach for JPEG for, I'm tending to lean AVIF in the future.

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 18:48:13 JST Sexy Moon

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     @birdulon @000a @hj @a1ba I know it doesn't work every single time for every type of image but for the type of things I'm processing it works every single time.
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     Birdulon (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Friday, 26-Jan-2024 18:48:15 JST Birdulon

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     @Moon @000a @hj @a1ba >the way I deal with that is I check all four corners of the image to see if any are actually-transparent
     cool, you just broke border/frame overlays
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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 08:18:25 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @swurl @a1ba read the other part of this thread
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     Swurl (swurl@swurl.land)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 08:18:26 JST Swurl

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     @hj@shigusegubu.club @a1ba@suya.place why do people hate it so much

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     narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 08:19:56 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:

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     @swurl @a1ba regular people hated it because they're browser didn't support it, simple as
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     Swurl (swurl@swurl.land)'s status on Saturday, 27-Jan-2024 08:19:57 JST Swurl

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     @hj@shigusegubu.club @a1ba@suya.place I get why tech autists do, but regular ass people talk about it
     is it just a meme at this point