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    寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-2022 22:59:15 JST 寮 寮
    Looking up the Let's Decentralize website to check whether ZeroNet or Lokinet was proprietary soyware (spoiler alert: both).

    I found 2, and they share quite a funny contrast.
    letsdecentralize.org: "fuck crypto, Web3 is a scam"
    letsdecentralize.com: "crypto good, Web3 is the future"
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      Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Sunday, 16-Oct-2022 23:21:22 JST Udon Udon
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      letsdecentralize at gmail.com
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 06:48:55 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @ryo Both of those are wrong. Crypto is good. Web3 is a scam.

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 06:55:35 JST 寮 寮
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      @xianc78 99% of the cryptocurrencies are a scam, mostly because there's almost always either a corporation, or a personality, or a government, or some other centralized dev team behind it.
      Then there's bullshit like dev taxes, ridiculously high transaction fees, network being centralized (because they're just too much of a hassle to set up and/or requires ASIC), smart contracts, or something else.

      That's why Monero is perhaps the only crypto that's not a scam.
      Maybe Haven could potentially be good too, but I haven't looked into it too much yet.
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      Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 06:56:16 JST Charliebrownau Charliebrownau
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      @xianc78 @ryo

      ((( Cpyto ))) is a scam for goyim to move away from physical cash

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      Hyolobrikator (hyolobrika@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 06:56:16 JST Hyolobrikator Hyolobrikator
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      • Charliebrownau
      How should people transact over the internet then?
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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:03:26 JST 寮 寮
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      @udon I know right?
      99.9% of all the blockchain bro's are basically hypocrites.
      "I'm moving to LBRY because I'm tired of JewTube's censorship, except I'll continue using JewTube and never log into LBRY lulz."
      "Look, I'm promoting Monero, send me donations to my bank account."
      "Stop using Shitter, start using Mastodon, follow me on Shitter."
      "Here's my decentralized, federated, free and open source, and censorship resistant chat protocol, for any issues you can contact us on our Discucked chat room."
      "I'm a Linux JewTuber, recording my stuff from WinDOS."
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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:04:01 JST 寮 寮
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      @udon I know right?
      99.9% of all the alternative pushers are basically hypocrites, it's not even funny anymore...

      "I'm moving to LBRY because I'm tired of JewTube's censorship, except I'll continue using JewTube and never log into LBRY lulz."
      "Look, I'm promoting Monero, send me donations to my bank account."
      "Stop using Shitter, start using Mastodon, follow me on Shitter."
      "Here's my decentralized, federated, free and open source, and censorship resistant chat protocol, for any issues you can contact us on our Discucked chat room."
      "I'm a Linux JewTuber, recording my stuff from WinDOS."
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:04:48 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      • Charliebrownau

      @charliebrownau @ryo I don't think it should replace cash or barter, but it's useful for things like renting virtual private servers or funding FOSS projects.

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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:30:25 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @ryo I meant Monero. I know that most of them are scams.

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      ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? (phenomx6@fedi.pawlicker.com)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:30:54 JST ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|?? ?Smoking cigs in Room 641a ??|??
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      @ryo @udon that's what fucked over the canceldon users.

      They talked hard for mastodon, shilled it, and went back because they never got censored from Twitter. If they did, they can get blue ticked after ban evading like keffals did.
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      flan (lolicon@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:31:33 JST flan flan
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      @xianc78 @ryo @xianc78 Haven is a scam as well. Heavily centralised.
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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:33:20 JST 寮 寮
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      @lolicon @xianc78 I see, I'll add that as a red flag to watch out for while researching it.
      But seeing the state of most crypto outside of Monero, I wouldn't be surprised.
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      flan (lolicon@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:34:40 JST flan flan
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      @charliebrownau @xianc78 @charliebrownau @xianc78 @ryo Most crypto, sure. Monero is the only coin worth a damn.
      As for an actual replacement for physical cash, get silver & gold.
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      flan (lolicon@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:35:42 JST flan flan
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      @charliebrownau @xianc78 @charliebrownau @xianc78 @ryo You can't tell me with a straight face that physical fiat cash is something ((they)) want us to move away from when it's their instrument of power. QE is something they can't do to silver & Monero.
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:36:01 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @lolicon @charliebrownau @ryo My Dad told me that the real metal you should invest in is lead. I guess that's because people are going to be manufacturing their own bullets when shit hits the fan.

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      Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: (roboneko@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:38:27 JST Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko: Neko McCatface v2023 :verified::makemeneko:
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      @charliebrownau @xianc78 @lolicon @charliebrownau @ryo @xianc78 gov would presumably prefer crypto they control. or a CBDC. or similar
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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:39:28 JST 寮 寮
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      @roboneko @lolicon @xianc78 @charliebrownau Any transparent crypto.
      Etherium and Chainlink are officially WEF-owned.
      Bitcoin isn't, but it's completely transparent, which is good enough for them as they can still glow all over it.
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:39:40 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @roboneko @lolicon @charliebrownau @ryo They haven't cracked Monero yet, but the IRS has put a bounty on anyone who can find a way to trace it.

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      Anti-Sophon (antisophon@fedi.absturztau.be)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:40:18 JST Anti-Sophon Anti-Sophon
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      @xianc78 @roboneko @lolicon @ryo which is good evidence it's secure. if it wasn't, someone would have collected the bounty
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      Hyolobrikator (hyolobrika@gleasonator.com)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:41:50 JST Hyolobrikator Hyolobrikator
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      Maybe someone has and they're keeping it secret :tinfoilhat:
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      x0x7@pawoo.net's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:42:08 JST x0x7 x0x7
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      @antisophon @lolicon @roboneko @xianc78 @ryo

      I always love people arguing for physical cash like it continuing to use it isn't already checkmate. It's like a nut in a monkey trap. They've taught you to grab at it but your continued valuing of it means your eventual absolute enslavement. CBDC is only an improvement on an existing checkmate.

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:44:05 JST 寮 寮
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      @x0x7 @antisophon @lolicon @roboneko @xianc78 Physical cash is still using their currency, but good luck finding any retailer who's willing to accept anything other than fiat.
      It's already a pain to get my clients to agree to pay me in crypto instead of Yen.
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      x0x7@pawoo.net's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 07:44:30 JST x0x7 x0x7
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      @antisophon @lolicon @roboneko @xianc78 @ryo

      If you want to beat your enemies you can't just resist. You have to solve problems faster than them. In the problem->solution tactic they use nothing pisses them off more than shimming in your own solution that reduces their total power. Punish for initiating action. Paypal says they'll take money, make them regret that. They create conditions that make people beg for digital currency, give people Monero. Someone throws a punch, block with elbow.

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 10:38:13 JST 寮 寮
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      @xianc78 @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @x0x7
      > Most of them aren't in Japan

      None of them are, based on filtering location on "Tokyo" and "Japan".
      Side effect of living in a country where the vast majority of both natives and foreigners are absolute bootlickers, and the majority of the allegedly "awake" people are just controlled opposition believers.
      Including myself, I'd say only 5 J-residents (so including both Nihonjin and Gaijin) are actually aware of what's going on, 1 of which is anti-crypto and believes in the "crypto is the gayteway to CBDCs" controlled opposition propaganda, and 1 other person struggles with even getting Bitcoin to begin with.
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      xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 10:38:15 JST xianc78 xianc78
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @x0x7 Bitejo has job listings that pay in Monero. Most of them aren't in Japan but you probably could work remotely, given your specialty.

      https://bitejo.com/search/tasko/

      Agorist.Market has a catalog of businesses that accept alternate currencies. Most of them are local and in the US though. If you do find a business accepting alternate currencies, tell them to get their business on there.

      https://agorist.market/

      In the meantime, you can trade directly with your neighbors (things like produce or services like mowing lawns) using alternative currencies like precious metals or just simple bartering.

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 10:47:33 JST 寮 寮
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      @ArdainianRight @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @xianc78 @x0x7 There's too much people if you're in a big city, yes.
      There's still plenty of human-less land available, far more than the amount of people on Earth.
      Overpopulation my ass...
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      ArdainianRight (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 10:47:34 JST ArdainianRight ArdainianRight
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      @x0x7 @antisophon @lolicon @roboneko @xianc78 @ryo The most fundamental problem is how reliant pretty much everyone is on the system. There's too many people for everyone to go be a subsistence farmer, and alternative media of exchange are limited by who'll take them. One way or another you're still tied to the system.
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      nanachi (yes@social.handholding.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 10:59:22 JST nanachi nanachi
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      @ryo i have seen lokinet often described as "right wing tor" and i have yet to understand what tf that actually means.
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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:03:28 JST 寮 寮
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      @yes If something gets labeled "right wing", all it means is "less than 6 million percent in line with whatever dogma the Americuck mainstream media is indoctrinating everyone with".
      That's all you need to know.
      So even if you believe that sex is a spectrum rather than a binary, everything is racist/sexist/transphobe/homophobe/crimatechangedenier/911denier/whatever, but you only say you got 3 lethal injection shots and refuse the 4th one, that's all it takes for you to be labeled "right wing extremist".
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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:05:29 JST 寮 寮
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      @sneeden @yes Left wing, right wing, it's all a scam.
      Designed for divide and conquer, the CIA controls both sides.
      Which is why I stopped ASSociating myself with the entire chicken altogether, so no left wing, no right wing, no left leg, no right leg, no breasts, no tail, no head, no belly, all what's important is yourself and what's happening around you.
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      Edward Sneeden (sneeden@freecumextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:05:30 JST Edward Sneeden Edward Sneeden
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      @yes @ryo ez:
      left wing = has the support of the CIA
      right wing = does not have the support of the CIA
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      nanachi (yes@social.handholding.io)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:05:47 JST nanachi nanachi
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      @sneeden @ryo so..... tor without glowies?
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      x0x7@pawoo.net's status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:07:37 JST x0x7 x0x7
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      @ArdainianRight @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @xianc78 @ryo

      I used to think spending crypto was important but I think it is far more important to earn crypto. Every hour you work for fiat you are giving legitimacy and value to their trap. But if you work for crypto you are solving the very problem we all think is a head ache, how do you even spend it on something useful. The answer is it gets spent on you. Be the solution you want to see in the world. I'm a hypocrite but I'm trying.

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      @ArdainianRight @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @xianc78 @ryo

      I looked at that Bitejo. When you look for "hiring" listings it has nothing. Maybe that's a good way to recruit because it looks like everyone who listed found their guy :(

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      Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:10:56 JST Charliebrownau Charliebrownau
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @xianc78

      Bitcoin got subverted a while ago

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      @charliebrownau @lolicon @roboneko @xianc78 Oh yea, I forgot.
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 Don't forget about the ocean which isn't owned by any country, and will soon be livable via seasteading.

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      @xianc78 @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 Unless you want a fish and seaweed farm, good luck farming on the ocean though.
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @x0x7 Maybe the language barrier is the problem. You should start translating conspiracy and libertarian works. James Corbett has talked about it.

      https://www.corbettreport.com/solutionswatch-translation/

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:26:37 JST 寮 寮
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      @xianc78 @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @x0x7 I was thinking of this for a while, though most people are getting too butthurt over what I have to say in English, now try to do that in any other language of which most of its speakers can't speak English.
      Loli frog sometimes spreads red pills in Japanese, but she doesn't speak English at all, and knows that she can't rely on almost anyone who is bilingual, so everything she says is what she figured out on her own (and pretty accurate too).

      Then there's another guy, Ankoku Doushi, who is an American living in Japan and is bilingual, he's pretty accurate on quite a few things, but doesn't seem to hit the target on everything correctly, but at least he makes videos in both English and Japanese.

      Chano-san knows quite a bit too, though too much focus on the English speaking audience, and only once in a while he'd subtitle his videos in Japanese.

      So perhaps I can contribute in some way, but I'd probably do so with Monero and darknet first, because I think this is the easiest red pill to swallow.
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      @ArdainianRight @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @xianc78 @x0x7 Either of the 2 is for everyone.
      If your main job is to provide hosting on your own servers, you'll be much better off in the city, considering that it's the only place you can get fiber connection.
      If you provide meat and diary, then of course the country side is your better bet.
      And if you're a lolyer, then either way is fine.
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @xianc78 @x0x7 Would it be feasible for everyone living in big cities to move out and become subsistence farmers? Some people could, but there'll still be a ton of normie urbanites who'll be completely doomed in the event of prolonged infrastructure failures. Note that there's a lot more to that equation than just empty space.
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      @ArdainianRight @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @x0x7 @ryo The extra crops can be sent back to their urban dwelling friends and family. And it's not like urban farming isn't a thing.

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      寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Monday, 17-Oct-2022 11:33:37 JST 寮 寮
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      @xianc78 @ArdainianRight @lolicon @roboneko @antisophon @x0x7 At first I wanted to share one of the many ultra-tight streets to joke about urban food farming, but then I found this bit of concept art:
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      @roboneko @lolicon @ArdainianRight @xianc78 @x0x7 @ryo expecting substantial deurbanization without total collapse seems implausible to me
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      @x0x7 @xianc78 @ArdainianRight @lolicon @antisophon @xianc78 @x0x7 @ryo indeed it isn't feasible. at least to the best of my knowledge it requires significant nitrogen fixation to support the current population in most countries

      if you accept nitrogen fixation then I don't see why people couldn't space out and grow stuff for themselves. but that would be incredibly time inefficient and you'd still be dependent on "the system" for the energy to fixate nitrogen as well as water for irrigation

      realistically the answer is that ship sailed long ago short of global collapse and mass die off
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      Well, most crypto are basically a fallback to hedge against inflation of the FRN. Of course, you have to get in early, on the bottom floor, for it to be a good enough investment of a couple hundred dollars (basically the amount you would be willing to lose at a casino in Vegas).
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      @David @xianc78 Using crypto as an investment is possible, but if that's your goal, I don't think crypto is something for you then.
      The point is to have an economic system when the fiat soystem collapses, and take away their plans of installing CBDCs by providing Monero instead.
      Sure, both are digital-only, but the one is tied to soycial credit, has a certain expiration date, restricts what you can spend it on, can be taken away from you at any random moment, and so on, while the other doesn't come with any of this bullshit.
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 I would like to do both. I would have a homestead in the country along with an apartment in the city to host my servers if I could afford both.

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      @xianc78 @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 The other problem is rent, and the fact that pretty much all landlords require you to be physically living in that apartment in order to maintain the rental contract.
      And what if your server goes offline?
      I had that happening this summer, it's not just a matter of just rebooting your server if you're a 3 hour bullet train ride away (not doable in terms of time and transit costs combined).
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      @ryo @yes And the irony is, those exact people turned me from being a progressive to being a conservative. They sabotaged themselves so hard anyone with a speck of common sense turned their backs and walked away!

      I mainly hate the right because of their stance on sexuality and being transphobes and the child (over)protection garbage: If we had LGBT conservatives who didn't freak out at everything and think their stupid kids are always threatened, I'd probably be far-right by today's terms xD

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      @MirceaKitsune @yes In the end, if you're attached to an ideology, nobody is truly your friend.
      I tried every side before except for communism, but regardless of which club I joined, I always had one or two ideas that are radically different from their dogma, so I ended up just going my own way.
      The closest I relate with is anarcho-capitalism, and even that one has certain things I disagree with, but at least most ancaps are fine with disagreements unlike every other ism.
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 Live primarily in the apartment and hire someone to tend the crops at the other place. Then pick up the crops when needed.

      But living in the suburbs gives you the best of both worlds honestly.

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      @xianc78 @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 Japanese suburbs are still very urban with no space for a garden (maybe except for a bit on the balcony).
      I live in a very small town, so I do have a tiny bit of garden near my property, although it's still just enough space for a select few small plants (won't say which in case glowniggers are reading along).
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      @ryo @yes The same can be said about the left a couple decades ago. That's why the whole spectrum is retarded.

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      @xianc78 @yes Everything that becomes mainstream becomes retarded.
      Like how Osho once put it, "Because democracy basically means, government by the people, of the people, for the people, but the people are retarded. So it's government by the retarded, of the retarded, for the retarded.".
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      @ryo @lolicon @roboneko @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 American suburbs are a different story. But depending on state/local laws you are limited to what you can grow in your backyard. You can raise animals in some places. Rabbits seem to be a popular animal to raise for food, but there is huge controversy around it because they are also a popular pet.

      And lucky for me, my parents told me that I'm always welcome to use their backyard to grow anything even after I move out (which still hasn't happened), though they're not comfortable with raising animals.

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      @roboneko @lolicon @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7 @ryo
      >had definitely not heard of this one. I thought requiring a permit to grow veggies was quintessentially a UK thing

      I meant animals sorry.

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      @xianc78 @x0x7 @xianc78 @ryo @lolicon @ArdainianRight @antisophon @x0x7

      > But depending on state/local laws you are limited to what you can grow in your backyard.

      had definitely not heard of this one. I thought requiring a permit to grow veggies was quintessentially a UK thing. I'm aware of laws against various invasive species here. but even those are rare and I've never heard of them overlapping significantly with things you would want to eat

      I guess an HoA might interfere but that's usually focused more on stuff that's visible from the street

      animals are a different story though. anything noisy or smelly is likely to be regulated. if you build structures for them that will also be regulated. but even then many very dense urban areas will still permit a small chicken coop, just no roosters and only a few birds max

      all that being said, regardless of local law I've known people to raise pigs if they had an acre or so. since they aren't meant as pets to begin with the worst case scenario that you're forced to get rid of them doesn't really matter all that much. and honestly no one is going to take notice if you're on a sufficiently large lot
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      Everything about Christianity is Jewish

      Centralised
      Gatekeepers
      Race Mixing
      Forced peace

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      @charliebrownau @lolicon @ryo He said Haven, not Heaven.

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      @enjoyer @MirceaKitsune @yes 90% of the ancaps in current year are just tech illiterate, and think that blockchain is the magic solution to literally every single problem, and most don't give a fuck about anonymity despite claiming otherwise.
      For example, making videos on JewTube with their real name, face, and location known to everyone, telling you important privacy is.

      I can't seem to agree on the tech stack especially.
      When I say we should rather be using things like self hosted XMPP servers for chat, self host our websites and mail servers, self host Fediverse software for soycial media, and so on instead of relying on Telegram/Signal, GayMail, Gab, BITCHute/Opussy, and no actual website at all, I got answers like "but not everyone is tech savvy", "but that's hard to understand", "but it's so hard", "but it costs too much money", "but hard to get an audience", and so on.
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      @ryo @MirceaKitsune @yes If you don't me asking, what are your differences with ancapism?
      FWIW, I'm ancap-turned-monarchist :pepeclever:
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      @ryo @enjoyer @yes Posting something you intend to be public is different from doing something you want to be private. The ridiculous thing is if they post themselves on Youtube but also think "there's no way Google could find out who I am".

      Otherwise yeah, it's weird to hear that young people of all are becoming tech illiterate these days. Some say they don't even know what folders are ?♂️

      #Blockchain is good for some things not all, like #AI it's overestimated and abuse. As for chat... #Matrix

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      @MirceaKitsune @enjoyer @yes

      > The ridiculous thing is if they post themselves on Youtube but also think "there's no way Google could find out who I am".

      > Otherwise yeah, it's weird to hear that young people of all are becoming tech illiterate these days. Some say they don't even know what folders are ?♂️

      I guess the only people who actually know technology are millenials and some gen-X-ers.
      Boomers grew up without technology, and refuse to learn about that, while zoomers grew up with a smartphone, and perhaps have never even seen an actual computer before, and the vast majority of the capitalists (lib-right and auth-right included) tend to be boomers and zoomers.
      On the other hand, gen-X-ers are the ones who created technology, and millenials further extended and perfected it, and those generally tend to be commies (lib-left and auth-left included, even though a "libertarian communist" doesn't make any sense at all).
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      @ryo @MirceaKitsune @enjoyer @yes Nah, computing itself is older than the boomers. Most things still in use today were created by the boomers that were competent with technology. You are using a Unix-based system, Unix was created by boomers. C was created by boomers. I think the creators of languages like Fortran and Lisp may actually be too old to count as boomers, not sure. Though maybe Lisp wasn't created, but discovered. Oh, and Stallman is also a boomer, though he didn't exactly invent much.

      And of course, since those things were invented, in most cases, nothing has improved and everything has gotten worse, and every generation that touches it makes it even worse. Except things that never became all that mainstream, those are just stagnant because there is no one to work on them, because everyone is already busy writing horrible abominations. In a way it's better to be stagnant, nowadays.
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      @TerminalAutism @MirceaKitsune @enjoyer @yes I thought RMS was a gen-X-er.
      How do you even call the generation before boomers by the way?
      Pre-war leftovers?
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      @ryo @MirceaKitsune @enjoyer @yes Stallman is 69 (nice), he's too old to be gen X. Linus Torvalds is gen X.

      And the previous one is the silent generation. And the one before that was the WW2 generation, the "greatest generation". Presumably called that because they were the biggest suckers for actually fighting in that war. A lot of them would agree.
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