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The amount of suicides among shitlib millennials in the next decade is going to be nothing short of biblical
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Yes I thought I made a point that it's forgivable.
Both accountable, I never said it was the victim only.
But here's a thought: Is a victim actually a victim if they're the one who is engaging in destructive, immoral, or evil behavior, regardless of they've been lied to or tricked into doing it?
In one way, yes. In another, no.
Every faggot in existence got molested or abused or exposed to something at some point. Do we just completely absolve them or their own responsibility to not be a fag and continue the cycle of abuse? Absolutely not. They were a victim of the abuse, but they are accountable for their actions, almost always regardless of circumstance.
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@tyler @Shauni @SKracket @Shadowman311 @Senator_Armstrong My main problem with this line of thinking is that it removes some of the blame from where it belongs; if you're accountable for being tricked, then some of the accountability of the one tricking you is removed. The mere idea that the victim is at fault for being tricked is extremely jewish and modern. Ignorance may not be defensible but it is forgivable.
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I spent some time thinking about this more.
People get really defensive about how it's not their fault they got fooled, how it's not fair (it isn't fair)
When I was a kid, I got fooled about something for a short time. It wasn't fair, but that's life. There's also lifetime consequences for letting yourself get fooled. That's life.
This whole psyop abuse ritual has been going on since the beginning of time.
Satan, in the garden of Eden, fooled Eve, who then fooled Adam. It wasn't fair, they were lied to, but they still bore the consequences. That's life.
Looking back and reading that story, do we think they were justified because of their ignorance? Probably not, and God doesn't pardon someone either because they were ignorant.
Even with mans law, not knowing isn't an excuse.
Not saying there shouldn't be mercy, there should, but ignorance has never been a defense, and much less, a defensible position.
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@SKracket @tyler @Shadowman311 @Senator_Armstrong Everyone does have a choice, tho. You can seriously investigate the implications of having or not having kids, or you can be sterile to spite your parents.
If that's too much agency to expect of the average person, then it's natural selection. They are not adapted to their current environment.
(Of course, this is little consolation when you want your society to continue.)
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Does not even nature itself teach them?
If not then, during their youth, most homes were Christian.
"I didn't know I should have children" - a statement invented by the utterly deranged
Makes me so angry that "they didn't know" would even be an argument.
A man and his wife HAVE CHILDREN. It's WHAT THEY DO.
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Nature? most people neuter their pets.
Christian homes? In name only. Come on, this hasn't been a seriously christian country since, desegregation or roe v wade take your pick.
On the one hand yes, these people are getting what they wanted. On the other hand, lets not pretend the average american was offered a deal and picked poorly. We weren't born into a healthy society.
To whit, your last point. A man and his wife in American for the last 4 generations do not have children, they have a child when they are ready and finacially stable and they've accomplished enough of their goals to fulfill their egos. That's what the average american grew up with.
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What kind of question is that?
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They were warned, and chose to believe a lie. More inheritance for my children.
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@tyler @Shadowman311 who warned the millenials? zoomers were the first to be warned because of what a disaster millenials ran into. gen x didn't do shit to prepare us for obama cringe.
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@DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 there is nothing you can do to insult these people more than they already to do themselves.
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@Shadowman311 Saying "I'm okay with my cats eating my face when I die alone" and those upvooting it
I will feel no remorse dabbing on them when that happens since theyre super Okay with it
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@DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 Mourn no, realize that kicking someone who is down isn't a good look or mindset, yes.
We are angry at the system, but the system has failed them too. Christianity's forgiveness angle is part of what gave it so much power.
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@sickburnbro @Shadowman311 Why mourn a mere bundle of cells reducing its carbon foot print
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@DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 Sure. what I'm saying is your enemy is mainly the people who programmed these retards.
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@sickburnbro @Shadowman311 I couldn't disagree more. Our enemy derives sadist sexual pleasure from the government oppressing us. Not only is fun, funny, and moralizing to kick when they're down and dance on their graves, it'a good and just to do so
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@sickburnbro @Shadowman311 That's true. But the small souled bugmen who became their enforcers had plenty of opportunities to ask themselves "am I evil?" but they never do and they can't be forgiven because they didn't have a moral failing just once they have one dozens of times a day
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@DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 absolutely. there is no forgiveness without penance.
My suggestion is to imagine what their penance would look like to you, some may have crimes which are unforgivable, but someone that loved globohomo, and had no kids and say, was part of some mass reporting - can they perform acceptable penance?
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@sickburnbro @Shadowman311 They have surely spit in the eye of more than one person who attempted to make them see reason. They have surely encouraged others to join them on their evil path
Asking for forgiveness when you've hit rock bottom, and only because you've hit it, is easy. I guess to me their penance would be suffering and living with the consequences of their actions and luxury beliefs
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@DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 Well, they will absolutely live with the consequences. They can have a punishment which amplifies their consequences too, a healthy society where people are happy and have kids is a great way to do that. But giving them a way to utilize their mistakes in a societally positive way is ultimately the best thing.
I know it's hard to imagine now, but your righteous anger can almost certainly be satisfied by the punishment of the elite.
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 foreignness isn't weakness, because the societies that used it were, for a time, the strongest.
It is however a double edged sword.
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@sickburnbro @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 Forgiveness is weakness, an enemy is an enemy, and any "empathy" or "forgiveness" towards them opens us up to Hellworld as we have now.
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@sickburnbro @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 Why should I forgive those that enable and follow evil? They’re my enemies and giving them another chance opens us up to them resuging, punish them to the degree of thier crimes once we win, and until then laugh at their pathetic misfortunes, they would do you no better.
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@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 you have been lied to about how forgiveness works.
In the past if you sinned bad enough you were not allowed back in to church to receive communion for a time.
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@CozyLife @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired I've said this before, you need to learn how to.
When time comes for resolution on covid, what will you do will all the nurses who followed what everyone was telling them, and gave people vaxxes?
Kill them?
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Donald J Trump and Joe Biden are My Enemies hence i will Never forgive them for what they have done. I agree 100% With Witch Hunter Here.
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@CozyLife @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired but you'd let them out after some time?
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No I wouldn't kill them, but at the very least, i would send them to Prison for helping in murder. Donald Trump along with Joe Biden Needs To Be Sent To Death For Being The Main People Behind the Murders Overseas due to Worthless Wars and Here at home Via the Covid Vax.
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@AmonMaritza @sickburnbro @CozyLife @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired No, none are supposed to be robots, they are supposed to do what is medically in the best interest of their patients.
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nurses don’t contradict doctors
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nurses are supposed to listen to doctors. the doctors will die.
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@AmonMaritza @CozyLife @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @sickburnbro They do when they make a bad call especially when it can harm the patient.
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@JustJohnny @AmonMaritza @CozyLife @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired not on something like this though. I actually have an article somewhere about how nurses have given people insane doses of medicine because an automated system said thats what they get.
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@JustJohnny @AmonMaritza @CozyLife @DEERBLOOD @Shadowman311 @Witch_Hunter_Siegfired nursing as an occupation just doesn't select for the type of person who will correct an authority figure