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   Galbinus Caeli 🌯 (skiphuffman@astrodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:41:24 JST Galbinus Caeli 🌯

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   • Jess👾

   @JessTheUnstill @mekkaokereke personally i think colleges need to get out of the business of training athletes.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:41:23 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Jess👾

     @SkipHuffman @JessTheUnstill @mekkaokereke 100%.

     Alas, not going to happen under current structures. Athletics are too much of a cash cow; many schools would go belly up without them under current revenue models.

     The way to get higher ed out of this business, and get athletics back to the student-focused, educational, co-curricular nature they’re supposed to have, is better public subsidy of education. As in an order of magnitude better.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:56:11 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Jess👾

     @SkipHuffman @JessTheUnstill @mekkaokereke Yeah. The first half beer of that discussion: there’s a chicken and egg question here. Some colleges / universities are turning to athletics to preserve their mission: structural forces now make it harder and harder for higher ed to be economically accessible, and monetizing sports seems like an escape hatch. But others are changing mission to become profit centers, which is a whooole different category of problem.

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     Galbinus Caeli 🌯 (skiphuffman@astrodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 03:56:12 JST Galbinus Caeli 🌯

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     • Jess👾

     @inthehands @JessTheUnstill @mekkaokereke we also need to get public colleges and universities out of the "making money" business. But that's a three beer discussion.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:19:30 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

     @inquiline @SkipHuffman @JessTheUnstill @mekkaokereke Eye-opening article!

     Similar chicken-and-egg question there: makes a lot of sense of institutions to buy up neighboring real estate to insulate students from rental market, house visiting faculty, have expansion options, control campus neighborhood environment…. Legitimate needs with a dangerous gradient into power abuse there — and apparently into financial exploitation!

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     Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫 (inquiline@union.place)'s status on Sunday, 31-Dec-2023 04:19:31 JST Can-crisociality 🦀〰️🥫

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     • Jess👾

     @inthehands @SkipHuffman @JessTheUnstill @mekkaokereke Also see: shifting towards real estate (using their tax-exempt status) https://www.businessinsider.com/universities-colleges-turning-into-real-estate-hedge-funds-higher-education-2023-3?op=1