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    बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper] (meeper@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 16:25:08 JST बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper] बुद्धीविनाषक् भेड़ मीपर् [Meeper]
    • þernia
    @pernia
    use emacs
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      @meeper @pernia the plan9 authors were entirely correct when they got rid of the vt abstraction
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      @pernia terminals are ancient soy shit for chuds

      they can't even render anything that cannot be organized in blocks, emacs is kinda a better-ui-tui-shell than terminal crap
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      þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 16:25:04 JST þernia þernia
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      @meeper emacs is shit, meepurr. micro has utf8, it'll load your glyphs. no need to use that gnu dogshit virus software
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      @pernia all other text editors (except acne on 9front) are shit
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      þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 16:25:06 JST þernia þernia
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      @meeper oh hell nah 🤣
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      @meeper @pernia they also mandatorily pull in gtk while emacs doesn't
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      @pernia no shitty notepad clone
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      þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:54:15 JST þernia þernia
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      @meeper use leafpad or gedit
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      @meeper @pernia yeah for native wayland you can only do pgtk, console is an option if you're willing to stomach a terminal emulator otherwise I heard someone is porting over haiku userland to netbsd so that may be an option somewhere down the line (?)
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      @allison @pernia only using pgtk for wayland, wish there was am alternative
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      @meeper @pernia in the meantime I'll use windows, got a fat stack of 360 games I need to 1cc and xenia isn't porting itself
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      @allison @pernia in the end arcan is the best solution lol
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      @pernia @meeper not if you use it on a sane platform no, there are native frontends for haiku, gnustep, win32, and cocoa, xaw3d/athena, and probably others I'm forgetting
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      @allison @meeper graphical emacs doesn't?
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      @pernia @meeper as long as we're on the topic of lisp autism tho, meeper, have you messed around with medley interlisp at all?
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      @pernia @meeper eventually, maybe. currently it's only a shim and some simple cli user programs. https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2023/11/27/msg030366.html
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      þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 15:25:33 JST þernia þernia
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      @allison @meeper woah? we getting haiku DE on 'bsd?
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      @meeper @pernia It's unironically super cool, top flight west coast Lisp Machine software which is actually free and available for general use now. I actually remember shooting off an email to Larry Masinter a few years back asking if anything would ever happen with it and he replied saying the rights were a thorny mess but big things would happen once they were cleared up. And my goodness did he ever deliver on that.
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      @allison @pernia no but that looks cool
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      @pernia @allison

      emacs is the one good gnuware and it's not rhtakeover'ed or badwormed like gcc and glibc

      pernia honestly I used to be an absolute vitard and terminal brained. until I actually gave it a fair chance after the ephiphany that terminals absolutely suck

      genuinely it's closer to acme than gtkcrap gui editors

      there is some gnu/brainworms but emacs is extremely customizeable and open ended that it's trivial to remove it.

      also use some shit like doom emacs after understanding it a bit which removes gnu/worms and optimizes a lot of stuff
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      @allison @meeper emacs blows and richard stallman is dying of cancer because of it
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      @pernia @allison I'll go as far to even say when the essentials of emacs (the frames windows, and how characters and other things are treated) refactored a bit are much better than even acme
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      @pernia @meeper config with saner defaults than vanilla, meme way of versioning third party packages, idk what else I'm not super up to date on the gnu emacs world
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      þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 05:48:12 JST þernia þernia
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      @meeper @allison >he needs an addon for it to be good
      what does doom emacs do anyway
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      @pernia @allison

      > use doom emacs plugin so it isn't as shit
      > oh hell nah

      bro emacs w/ doom emacs (ie without gnu/brainrot) is genuinely good
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      þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Dec-2023 05:48:15 JST þernia þernia
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      @meeper @allison >retarded keybinds
      >bloated mess
      >gnigger branded
      >use doom emacs plugin so it isn't as shit
      oh hell nah
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      @meeper @pernia default emacs bindings are broadly sensible and mnemonic, but the usage of modifier keys is excessive. meow mostly fixes this at the cost of making it a modal editor so it's definitely something I have my eye on
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      @pernia @allison also default emacs bindings aren't retarted they make more or at least sense than vim tbh

      the main problem is too much chording (Ctrl + key) that if you use your pinky it causes strain but it's easy to learn to use you're palm for that

      also doom emacs by default uses a vim-ish scheme but with a better SPC-based bindings (+vim and some emacs bindnigs)
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      @pernia @meeper acme is good but it makes too many simplifying assumptions which hurt it with things like editing sexp lisp code (no native indentation and parentheses matching) and the support for non block based languages is poor even if it's natively utf8. that being said, I'm sure we can all agree here that vi bindings are not great and you can easily do better for yourself no matter your eventual inclination.
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      @meeper @allison vim bindings SUCK TOO.

      doom emacs sounds more sensible, but still. use acme from plan9port if u have to, not SHITMACS
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      @pernia @meeper sexp is a shorthand for s expressions, the syntax (and ast/internal data representation, because in most lisps the two things are actually one and the same) of pretty much every lisp. parentheses matching is useful because large lisp programs accumulate a lot of parentheses and manually matching stuff like (((((()))))) is incredibly annoying (some non-emacs lisp editors go as far as providing full structure editing because of this, like what medley interlisp does). non block languages are languages where the script used for the letters needs to be kerned and combined at runtime, the letters don't fit in individual blocks like they do with most common scripts like latin or cyrillic. examples of such scripts would be devanagari (relevant to meeper), arabic (relevant to me for reasons), and then much weirder stuff like phags-pa.
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      @allison @meeper whats sexp and native indentation and parentheses matching. Also what are nonblock languages
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      @pernia @meeper I'm pretty much in the "you really *really* want a structure editor for lisp specifically" camp, so emacs feels like a half measure to me. And yeah, non block languages are wild. There's actually this gentleman in Iran who wrote pretty much his entire computing environment to run on top of the Linux framebuffer, and all his tools have full support for them which is just wild. https://litcave.rudi.ir/
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      @allison @meeper mmmm. Well the lisp thing id say is intentional (no syntax automation anything is a principle). That nonblock language is a shame
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      @galena @pernia @meeper Yes for sure it's something you either hate to bits or it's pure sex, no inbetween
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      @allison @pernia @meeper It's Sexual EXP
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      @pernia @meeper would be some funny crosspollination if so given that it's literally modelled off plan9 troff, even as far as the macros neatroff being 100% compatible with the troff shipped by 9front.
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      @allison @meeper oh i think ive heard of this guy. Great shit. The neatroff suite got ported to 9front too i think, or is in the process
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      @allison @pernia I used neatroff for one of my school projects once

      was never really able to get it to render devanagari though

      Anyway I really hate the troff font system which is pushing me to try learning TeX
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      @pernia @meeper whenever I look at troff or tex I just feel a wistful sadness that scribe wasn't able to win
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      @meeper @allison woah, troffmeepurr. what class was it for?

      most of my programming proyects/assignments require documentation to be written in latex, interestingly enough. too bad texlive is so fucking fat
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      @pernia @meeper the first really good declarative typesetting language made next to the (far inferior imho) sgml, the main imprint it had was in influencing leslie lamport to make latex as a kind of ghetto scribe on top of tex, and in the time bomb functionality it implemented along with the subsequent commercialization efforts of it by the author (brian reid) being one of the main formative influences on richard stallman to start the gnu project and the free software movement as we know it
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      @allison @meeper whats scribe, i think i've heard about it too. its like a simple/cool typesetter thing right?
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      @pernia @meeper yeah it was, 90 days or something and then you had to buy the software. eventually they opted for a more conventional shrinkwrap model but by that time it was kind of already on the out and out. stallman for his part decided to write texinfo as a sort of scribe++ with hypertext capabilities but it got about as much adoption as you'd expect any stallman thing to get outside of emacs, gcc, and gdb. also scott burson (while he was employed at mark of the unicorn, now famous for making midi gear and digital audio workstations) made a clone of it for micros called scribble alongside a rough emacs clone called mince and both of those sold rather well and had a couple of commercial descendants in the form of perfectwriter and borland sprint.
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      @allison @meeper wudduhel, maybe not the same thing i was thinking of. that timebomb shit sounds shitty as hell
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      @meeper @pernia probably, there were a couple of other (later) typesetting systems also called scribe which took some influence from it but weren't the same thing.
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      @allison @pernia no wait, it was some new age refctored typesetting aystem
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      @allison @pernia I forgot what it's name was I need to check it out
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