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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 10:05:57 JST ?Hidden? Psychedelics-heads always talk the big talk about the ego-diminishing effects but every one I meet has a huge ego can someone explain this phenomenon -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 10:05:55 JST rees @PeachySummer @hidden -
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PeachySummer (peachysummer@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 10:05:56 JST PeachySummer dude weed lmao :blob_shrug: -
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Hombre Lego Mexicano (grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:47 JST Hombre Lego Mexicano @dicey @rees @hidden @kekkerel @vriska the anti-racists like to say that white people don't have a culture, and technically it's true. However, the French, the Germans, the Scandinavians, the Italians, the English, the Irish, the Russians, the Spanish, the Portuguese, and many other groups I've left out (especially in Eastern Europe) definitely have unique and rich cultural traditions. "White people" isn't a homogenous group, so there isn't a homogenous culture or tradition. Religion can serve as a substitute for that sense of community. I do agree that many congregations are greedy, grasping bastards though, because it's true. -
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BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:47 JST BowserNoodle ☦️ @Grandtheftautism @rees @hidden @kekkerel @vriska @dicey >"White people" isn't a homogenous group, so there isn't a homogenous culture or tradition.
Disagree. It may not be as monolithic as some, but it's definitely there. Random European person will come talk to me over an Indian guy because he knows I'm more like him on average. -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:48 JST dicey Same with LGBT culture. They have taken over the soul of a whole generation of young people -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:49 JST dicey It's more a tradition in Europe. People show normal range of emotions and don't rely on the supernatural for emotional life. It's culture and tradition in Europe. Christianity in US is very money based and has stunted Americans emotionally -
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Hombre Lego Mexicano (grandtheftautism@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:49 JST Hombre Lego Mexicano @dicey @kekkerel @rees @hidden @vriska that's the cost of diversity imho. Not being a homogenous country, the US doesn't have homogenous traditions. What traditions we do have were co-opted by corporations a long, long time ago.
Caught myself humming a jaunty Christmas tune the other day, but I couldn't remember the lyrics. Then I realized it was "I'd like to teach the world to sing" from the Coca-Cola ads in the 70s and 80s. Fucking brainworms
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:51 JST dicey Not European christians. But American christians are more insane than a schizo in my opinion talking strictly delusional thinking not functioning level -
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Kek Marie Kerel (kekkerel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:51 JST Kek Marie Kerel @dicey @rees @hidden @vriska
In my experience, the piousness of Europeans is extremely limited. I can think of some examples to the contrary, but Europe as a rule does not have zeal. -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:52 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska both of your examples involve things that are either before or after the human experience. I was saying buddhists do some weird shit like self-immolation or kaihogyo. shia muslims do self-flaggelations with swords. christians aren't that bad on the "religion-to-reality" tier-list. -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:53 JST dicey It's literally more insane thinking that the earth was created 10 000 years ago than believing that your cat and you will be switched when you die and you will be the cat and your cat you in the next life -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:54 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska there's two differences. 1) religion is a social construct, i.e. we wear clothes because everyone else wears clothes and being nude would be strange 2) religion is a possible explanation and guideline for life, it's not a warping of reality. if you were born in a dystopic world where you didn't know who invented the TV or how it works, but it still existed, it'd be normal to believe that it was created by the gods, it would be strange to believe it's communicating with you -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:55 JST dicey I don't believe this shit here. I don't see me communicating telepathically is worse than this -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:56 JST dicey Im as normal as a person can be. This is just some delusional thoughts no more severe than believing in the abrahamic god -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:56 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska >no more severe than believing in the abrahamic god
abrahamic religions usually deal with the afterlife and don't touch the real world that often except for like the crusades/inquisitions, you'd probably be better off pointing to buddhism they do some wacky shit -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:57 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska well, thank you for being honest about it -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:58 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska >I just think I can communicate telepathically but use it for entertainment
well you're clearly cognizant and can rationalize (I assume] that this is ridiculous... -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:58 JST dicey I can tell it's ridiculous but still feel it's real as in reality -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:53:59 JST dicey I am a normal A4 individual who you can't tell that have any problems outside. I just think I can communicate telepathically but use it for entertainment. I have no issues whatsoever in surviving or presenting as normal. If I was psychotic as I have been earlier in life I wouldn't be able to feed myself. But I been normal since 2017 -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:00 JST dicey Yeah that's my diagnosis -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:00 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska well it could be worse ig, atleast you're not an alcoholic / drug addict (???) -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:01 JST dicey Schizophrenia is only bad while psychotic. Once you aren't psychotic you no longer have any issues. I know because I have it. -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:01 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska paranoid schizophrenia = schizophrenia + paranoid delusions -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:02 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska manic depression was the old name for it, there's much worse things like paranoid schizophrenia -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:03 JST dicey Manic depression? Is that bipolar? Because manic depression is the most debilitating disease in sense of outcome and severity -
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dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:04 JST dicey I seen it on documentaries. Bipolar are the most debilitating diseases often ending badly -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:04 JST rees @dicey @hidden @vriska bipolar isn't that bad/debilitating -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:05 JST rees @hidden @vriska have you dealt with a bipolar person having a manic episode before? they are shouting at walls and writing manuscripts talking about sublimation of the earth thinking they are the next mozart -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:06 JST rees @hidden @vriska ego-death or "ego-projection" or w/e, just sounds like a manic episode. feelings of grandeur. "The terms "mania" and "manic episode" describe a state of mind characterized by high energy, excitement, and euphoria over a sustained period of time." -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:06 JST ?Hidden? @rees @vriska Ego-projection is identification with the environment which has nothing to do with mania?? -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:07 JST ?Hidden? @rees @vriska What sounds like a manic episode? -
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rees (rees@breastmilk.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:08 JST rees @hidden @vriska >I have a possibly incorrect hunch that the ego-death people talk about on psychedelics is more like ego-projection since they often report identifying with the environment in a way someone who reaches ego death by meditating or runners high or extreme epic awesomesauceness doesn't.
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『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:09 JST 『VRISKA』 @hidden oftentimes the conclusions people draw are judgements on the external world (silly) when psychedelic states are all about exploration and analysis of the internal self
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:09 JST ?Hidden? @vriska Yeah, it's in the name which means "Psyche made visible." People think they're finding a brand new way to connect with the world when it seems to me that it's more about revealing the subtle hidden parts of their own psyche that they struggle to find on their own. I have a possibly incorrect hunch that the ego-death people talk about on psychedelics is more like ego-projection since they often report identifying with the environment in a way someone who reaches ego death by meditating or runners high or extreme epic awesomesauceness doesn't. -
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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:10 JST ?Hidden? @vriska This is interesting and makes sense. I get the sense that a lot of people find something useful but get lost in some sort of maze afterwards anyhow -
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『VRISKA』 (vriska@lizards.live)'s status on Friday, 15-Dec-2023 13:54:11 JST 『VRISKA』 @hidden people who use them right stop using them the moment they figure out what they need to, anything beyond that is hedonism and actively bad for you if you're not honest about it being recreation
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