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Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:32 JST Tyler

I am finally able to start contributing to my savings again insallah

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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:25 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @MeBigbrain @tyler Jesus spoke at least two languages and neither were English or Latin. Inshallah and it's various forms are just Arabic for "if God wills it", and Arab speaking Christians use the same phrase. "Allah" is the only word for The supreme most high capital G God in the Arabic language, to my knowledge.
  
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:26 JST Tyler
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  Maybe you're reading into things
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:26 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @tyler Don't speak the demon tongue, no quarter for demons. When we retake the Holy Land they can pick between speaking Latin or God's English (King James Version).
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:27 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @tyler "Allah" is capitalized because it's a name. (Don't know why you capitalized "Bread" though.)
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:28 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @tyler I don't buy into the "Muslims worship the same God" line, what they call "Allah" is not God.
  
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:28 JST Tyler
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  I didn't say that.
  
  I said the word Allah means God.
  
  The word is the same.
  
  Like the word Brot means Bread.
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:30 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @tyler Yeah it's not too different from saying "Hail Satan." Even as a joke, it's no good.
  
  (I have done it somewhat recently myself btw, I also need to delete it from my vocabulary)
  
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:30 JST Tyler
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  I don't think it's the same as saying 'hail satan' at all.
  
  Allah is just arabic for the word "God": اللهُ
  
  If I was fluent in Arabic, and I used the word Allah to describe God Almighty, then it'd be fine.
  
  "Insallah" is only inappropriate because it's used in context of a meme, incidentally referencing the false mohammidian religion.
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:31 JST Tyler
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  I probably shouldn't use it since that's not a name the Lord has given.
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:24:32 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @tyler I'm always a but unsettled by the use of "inshallah," ironically or not.
  
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  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:28:53 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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  @BowsacNoodle @tyler @MeBigbrain
  
  >Allah" is the only word for The supreme most high capital G God in the Arabic language, to my knowledge.
  
  ...but it does have other superlative names for Allah, much like hebrew does roughly translating to 'the greatest' 'the most kind' 'the most just' etc
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:38:40 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @jeffcliff @tyler @MeBigbrain Thats true. I look at Muslims as brown Bedouin desert mormons. Heretical fanfiction that keeps enough of the truth to be hard to reject without serious consideration and understanding. It's Arianism taken to next logical conclusions, which is why I legitimately think it's demonically inspired. Keep Christ as important and wise and representing speaking as a prophet, but remove His sacrifice and the gift He gave humanity and all of the significance behind it. What better way to mislead those seeking a righteous life than present them with a tweaked mosaic law coupled with rejection of the love of God's ultimate gift?
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:59:45 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @MeBigbrain @jeffcliff @tyler My brother in Christ, I am not advocating for capitulation to them in any way. Islam was driven back by the sword and the lives of our ancestors. We can do it again if the time comes. It would be far better for them and us if they'd accept Christ and reject their heresy than fight us in a holy war. That they bong over there, far away from European peoples, is a separate issue. Presently 1/10 Arabic speaking people on Earth are Christian, and if not for Muslims it would be greater than 9/10.
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 12:59:46 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @tyler >Whites: "We need to be considerate and understanding"
  >browns: [behead Whites]
  
  We need to get past this, brothers. We are dying.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:02:50 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @jeffcliff @tyler @MeBigbrain That won't save you, Jeff. Jesus Christ is Lord. He overcame death and His gift of eternal life is available to all, including you. What if instead of embracing the darkness you touched light? #LightJeff has a nice ring to it.
  
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  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:02:51 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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  @tyler @BowsacNoodle @MeBigbrain But i've spent a large amount of time memorizing the names of god in arabic.
  
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:02:52 JST Tyler
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  Shut up jeff you're a whoremonger and not to my knowledge a believer in the slightest
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:14:19 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @jeffcliff @tyler @MeBigbrain I'm not memeing, Jeff. 100% serious. You see a lot of the same problems in the world as us, even though you're looking through a different lens. What if you put effort into trying to know Jesus like you have with COVID? You know evil exists. Why run from the truth?
  
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  Coon Appreciater (mebigbrain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:17:37 JST Coon Appreciater
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  @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @tyler >"if they had not chosen evil they would have chosen good"
  Sure okay.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:17:37 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @MeBigbrain @jeffcliff @tyler Look at Lebanon. They used to be like 3/4 Christian until ZOG (US) involvement. Their Christians were not Zionist, so they were a bigger threat to Israel.
  
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  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:22:36 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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  you know, there is another bible on my bookshelf , if I make it through the next couple of books I'll get there. . .
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:22:36 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @jeffcliff @tyler @MeBigbrain Starting with the New Testament and reading The Gospels is an excellent intro. There's so much more to it than what you get through passive reading. You can't read it like an academic paper unless you have a reference study Bible.
  
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  BowserNoodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:28:14 JST BowserNoodle ☦️
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  @MeBigbrain @jeffcliff @tyler My dude, I don't know what you think I'm saying, but it's neither an endorsement of Islam nor a glorification of brown people. I'd rather more people come to know Christ than not. I want my people to be saved, but I don't view my faith as racially exclusionary.
  
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  @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @tyler We're now on "Zog made them Muslims."
  
  >White people holding non-Whites accountable for their own actions challenge (difficulty: impossible)
  
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  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:29:08 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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  @BowsacNoodle @tyler @MeBigbrain i've read the bible before, at least twice cover to cover plus some
  
  but this translation has a new approach: getting hackers to convert to christianity by appealing directly to them as hackers.
  
  it's a bold strategy we'll see how it pans out
  
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  @BowsacNoodle @jeffcliff @tyler Here's what I am saying: they are not Muslims because of jews. They did not turn away from Christ because of Muslims. They ARE Muslims. Islam is a creation of their people, it is inseparable from them. Maybe they could be Christians, and maybe niggers can be civilized, but it is overwhelmingly more likely that they will return to their true nature as they always do. Your faith may not exclude races but races may exclude your faith. You're better off preaching to cats and dogs.
  
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  @MeBigbrain @jeffcliff @tyler Perhaps so. I don't focus my efforts on trying to reach brown people on the opposite side of the world though. The only reason I even brought up any of this was as a response to your comment regarding "Allah" as a word being tainted with its shared usage by Islam. It's not worth fighting with one another over IMO, but I am sorry if I frustrated you with my autism.
  
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  Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:40:08 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
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  @MeBigbrain @tyler @BowsacNoodle
  
  > it is inseparable from them
  
  I wouldn't go that far. Plenty of white & black muslims out there. That's the thing with a religion spread by the sword: it will eventually include a lot of diversity from conquest
  
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  @BowsacNoodle @tyler Weird then that English-Speaking Mudslimes also say "Allah" and not "God."
  
  Once again, the well-meaning White man falls behind the curve in the culture war (also the Holy War).
  
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  Tyler (tyler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Dec-2023 13:42:42 JST Tyler
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  Why do we call Hitler "Fuher" and not "leader"?
  
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  ec670@pawoo.net's status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 04:55:45 JST ec670
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  I’m actually quite fascinated by the identity politics of #Islam as practiced by the non-Arab world. Like their willingness or unwillingness to practice iconoclasm and destroy idols and relics from their pre-Islamic past
  Mustafa Kamal was willing to secularize modern #Turkiye in part because he saw Islam as a foreign, invader religion
  Fascinating conversation because #fash #fedi has the same issues with #Christianity
  
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  ec670@pawoo.net's status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 04:55:45 JST ec670
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  Wikipedia says that the Dome of the Rock / al Aqsa was built to form a center of pilgrimage to rival #Mecca
  Just like in the biblical account, Rehoboam, the first king of Israel in the Divided Kingdoms period, established a Baal shrine to discourage pilgrimage to Jerusalem (in Judah). Similar motivations
  
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  ec670@pawoo.net's status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 04:55:46 JST ec670
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  Have you learned any other #Arabic , like basic conversational phrases?
  Chanting the #99names of God seems awfully pious, I honestly wouldn’t expect that of you
  
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  have i learned any other arabic yes
  can i do basic conversational level stuff hell no
  
  it's all useless stuff that comes up only in relation to islam, and much of it is becoming forgotten as i don't use it for anything other than conversations about religion
  
  card that just came up: al-rahman
  meaning: allah
  
  next card: أسلم تسلم / Aslim Taslam
  which translates to roughly "do what i/god says and you won't get hurt"
  
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  ec670@pawoo.net's status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 04:57:31 JST ec670
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  I certainly understand that #Muslims use #inshallah in the correct, pious usage to demonstrate humility towards #Allah . So I guess you would prefer if we not abuse the phrase
  And in truth we shouldn’t. In the #NewTestament in the #EpistleOfJames it specifically says, “do not say we shall travel to such a city and buy and sell and get gain”
  “But say, if the Lord wills, we shall go to such a place, and do this and that”. #Bible
  
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  التنينوكس (dragnucs@social.touha.me)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 04:57:32 JST التنينوكس
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  @ec670 @jeffcliff @tyler @BowsacNoodle @MeBigbrain Allah is translated as God. Inshallah means "if God is willing". It can be inappropriate in case of a meme. The transliteration Allah is used when emphasizing the Islamic fate perception of God. All Abrahamic religions worship the same God.
  All in all it is good you can now contribute to your savings. 👍
  
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  PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Dec-2023 07:02:16 JST PoalackJokes88
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  @jeffcliff @BowsacNoodle @tyler @MeBigbrain Most of those words are "El"-something, which were actually different deities originally. El-yon (sounds like "Allah"), El-Shaddai, Asherah, etc. were different deities that were subsumed into Yahweh. They're almost all a direct analogue to neighboring figures in Babylon & Sumeria.
  
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