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    ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:13:10 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
    > Be me

    > Use foss os and software

    > Write a script that utilizes and relies upon foss os and software to save significant time in my law practice.

    > Tell boomer that knows I use foss os and software about my script.

    > Boomer: "You should try to sell it to other lawyers."

    Why are boomers like this?
    In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:13:10 JST from eveningzoo.club permalink

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      The Forbidden Dreamer (forbiddendreamer@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:15:37 JST The Forbidden Dreamer The Forbidden Dreamer
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      @Humpleupagus You should sell support to other lawyers at $800/hr.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:15:37 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:15:37 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • The Forbidden Dreamer
      Emotional support? 🤔
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:15:37 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:33:08 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • The Forbidden Dreamer
      • ]smirk[
      Keep talking. I'm listening.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:33:08 JST permalink
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      ]smirk[ (smirk@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:33:09 JST ]smirk[ ]smirk[
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      • The Forbidden Dreamer
      No.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:33:09 JST permalink

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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:53:12 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • ProfessionalNEET
      I'm not jewish.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:53:12 JST permalink
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      professionalneet@poa.st's status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:53:13 JST ProfessionalNEET ProfessionalNEET
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      @Humpleupagus He's right
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:55:09 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Paleloon
      In that case.....
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:55:09 JST permalink
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      Paleloon (paleloon@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:55:10 JST Paleloon Paleloon
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      • ProfessionalNEET
      @Humpleupagus @ProfessionalNEET The lawyers that buy it probably would be though
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 07:55:10 JST permalink
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      Summertime for Zeon (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:07:27 JST Summertime for Zeon Summertime for Zeon
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      @Humpleupagus IDK man, this seems gaytarded

      “hey you could feed your kids, enhance their position in the world with that-“

      “uhhhhh ew. That’s against the principles of free and OPEN SOURCE software”

      It’s cool but not enough people play by that system, might as well get what’s yours just like they do

      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:07:27 JST permalink
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      John Rando (john_rando@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:07:27 JST John Rando John Rando
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      • Summertime for Zeon

      @WashedOutGundamPilot @Humpleupagus A script though? Even if you wanted to sell it, keeping it from just being copied and freely distributed is next to impossible. Now, keeping it a trade secret and using it to gain unsurpassed advantage over your competitors, that could work.

      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:07:27 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:07:44 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Summertime for Zeon
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:07:44 JST permalink

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        Categorical imperative
        The categorical imperative (German: kategorischer Imperativ) is the central philosophical concept in the deontological moral philosophy of Immanuel Kant. Introduced in Kant's 1785 Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals, it is a way of evaluating motivations for action. It is best known in its original formulation: "Act only according to that maxim whereby you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law."According to Kant, rational beings occupy a special place in creation, and morality can be summed up in an imperative, or ultimate commandment of reason, from which all duties and obligations derive. He defines an imperative as any proposition declaring a certain action (or inaction) to be necessary. Hypothetical imperatives apply to someone who wishes to attain certain ends. For example, "I must drink something to quench my thirst" or "I must study to pass this exam." A categorical imperative, on the other hand, denotes an absolute, unconditional requirement that must be obeyed in all circumstances and is justified as an end in itself, possessing intrinsic value beyond simply being...
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:08:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Password Man
      I actually made it for my "flat fee" services. I'm not completely stupid. 😏
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:08:59 JST permalink
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      Password Man (mac_ack@hidamari.apartments)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:09:00 JST Password Man Password Man
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      @Humpleupagus No you should bill for the time it would otherwise be expected to take and slack off with the time saved, and tell nobody about the script
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:09:00 JST permalink
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      Summertime for Zeon (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:19:42 JST Summertime for Zeon Summertime for Zeon
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      • John Rando

      @john_rando @Humpleupagus Selling it to nonsophisticates is easy. They probably won’t know how to trade it around, or even think about doing so if they paid for it.

      I was just talking to a guy who had people bothering him about making an updated GUI app that only really acted to program network switches. All it did was turn mouse clicks into terminal commands. Tiny thing that took him an afternoon of work but it’s been working for 10+ years behind the scenes, and it bought him a new car in college.

      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:19:42 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:19:42 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • John Rando
      I actually have a client that develops custom software for specific uses and even, at times, goes so far as to modify a chosen os to specifically operate on the chosen hardware on which the app will run. It's all highly specialized contract work that varies client to client. They do alright.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:19:42 JST permalink
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      skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:24:39 JST skylar  :confederateflag:??? :z: skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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      • Summertime for Zeon
      • John Rando
      @john_rando @Humpleupagus @WashedOutGundamPilot this
      God help the man who thinks they can sell software they wrote for a quick and easy profit
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:24:39 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:24:39 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Summertime for Zeon
      • skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
      • John Rando
      I'm just going to say it now. No.... my shit doesn't do that and never will.
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      John Rando (john_rando@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:24:40 JST John Rando John Rando
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      • Summertime for Zeon

      @WashedOutGundamPilot @Humpleupagus Only downside of catering to the unsophisticated rubes is if it doesn’t “just werk” they expect you to provide support, even for the most trivial things. That gets old fast.

      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:24:40 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:29:09 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
      • John Rando
      And everything has to have a checkbox, slider, or button. God forbid that they ever touch a terminal even when it's 300x faster, and easier, to do the same task and without the bloat.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:29:09 JST permalink
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      skylar :confederateflag:??? :z: (skylar@misskey.yandere.love)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:29:10 JST skylar  :confederateflag:??? :z: skylar :confederateflag:??? :z:
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      • John Rando
      @john_rando @Humpleupagus @WashedOutGundamPilot ESPECIALLY to law firms
      lawyers are some of the most needy computer users on the planet
      worse than doctors and car salesmen combined
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 08:29:10 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:28:25 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Birdulon
      • John Rando
      You don't know how true this is. The small bill clients are the ones that nitpick the most. Charging a hefty consult fee and taking large retainers tends to keep out the riff raff.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:28:25 JST permalink
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      Summertime for Zeon (washedoutgundampilot@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:28:27 JST Summertime for Zeon Summertime for Zeon
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      • John Rando

      @john_rando @Humpleupagus Depends on pricing and how bad the money is, which is a diff. thing from shooting down the concept out of old fashioned morality. It not being worth the time is likely enough in that case.

      Weird that I’ve heard a few of these stories lately, where old ass apps that people kludged together in an afternoon come back a decade later as prospective projects.

      I don’t like seeing people leave money on the table, I’ve done it too many times myself thinking I was being cool only to have someone exploit the opportunity anyways. I knew one kid who worked on an indie game for years, published it for free and never saw a cent for that work, but the chinks sure did.

      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:28:27 JST permalink
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      Birdulon (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:28:27 JST Birdulon Birdulon
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      • John Rando
      @WashedOutGundamPilot @Humpleupagus @john_rando Many people grew up with $500 clients in their social circle and fear that they'll be held to unpaid support for decades if they carelessly sell things to people.
      Same reason I get very apprehensive when family members say I should take up electronics repair, since if my customers end up anything like them, they'll balk at paying more than parts cost and all problems down the line with their (very old) gear will get blamed on me for years to come. Different matter when selling things to people that don't experience physical pain handing over money, which might be the case selling to lawyers, but then hey, maybe they're more sue-happy too!
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:34:21 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Birdulon
      • John Rando
      I still do my good deeds every now and then though. I do help people when they need it even if they're of limited means or indigent. I still need to eat and to keep my malpractice / bar reporting risk down though. I have a family to tend to.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:34:21 JST permalink
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      Birdulon (birdulon@shpposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:34:22 JST Birdulon Birdulon
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      • John Rando
      @Humpleupagus @WashedOutGundamPilot @john_rando >You don't know how true this is.
      Indeed. Everyone I know who moved from the little league to the big leagues resonates with that meme, I just gaze on it longingly from my corner of the little league.
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:34:22 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:39:23 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Summertime for Zeon
      • Birdulon
      • John Rando
      I've had situations where people will Phone consult with me, and not like the advice I give (I'm a lawyer not a fucking magician), and then complain about the bill, which is usually a few hundred at max, sometimes less, given it's a consult, because "I didn't do anything for them." It's usually boomers, and unmarried boomer women to boot. I wonder why they're not married? 🤔
      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:39:23 JST permalink
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      John Rando (john_rando@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:39:24 JST John Rando John Rando
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      • Birdulon

      @birdulon @Humpleupagus @WashedOutGundamPilot I saw this myself when I told a boomer about my experience with an antenna analyzer kit I bought from an amateur radio club. The guy who developed it used to be an engineer working for siemens. After building the kit I ran into a few issues getting it to work right. The first was an issue with the final amplifier transistor that was having parasitic oscillations due to being a shitty chinese clone of the original product. I tried a few fixes until finally trying his suggestion of making a “gimick” capacitor with a 10 meg resistor, which worked perfectly. The second problem was a firmware issue with the microcontroller that required me to cut a trace and reroute a circuit, as well as load new software to compensate. After that it worked perfectly and I’ve built several homemade antennas with it. But the boomer told me I should ask for a refund.

      I mean, it’s a hobbyist kit that allowed me to make a working antenna analyzer at a fraction of the cost of buying something manufactured, I learned a lot and the guy who developed it helped me without giving me trouble, and the boomer told me I should ask for a refund???

      In conversation Thursday, 02-Nov-2023 10:39:24 JST permalink

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