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   Rayfield (rayfield@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:25 JST Rayfield

   • Owl
   @Owl
   >Unless you people are interested in my new Wacom tablet and what I'm drawing with it
   Yes, you should post about it.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:10 JST NEETzsche

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     It also lowers the barrier to entry for people with vision but not skill, since you can just edit the output if you’re actually interested in making a compelling product.

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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:11 JST Leaf Lord

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     The true benefit of AI art is that all the mass producing commercial soulless faggots will either commit KYS themselves or will abandon it as a career.
     All that will be left are the turbo passionate autists and people seized by divine inspiration.
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:12 JST Owl

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     Artists need to stop kvetching about art and just make their art better. End of the story there, that’s just what happens.

     Human-made art is never going to go away. All the artists crying about it are soulless hentai goons anyway or people who lack perspective that can be corrected.

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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:13 JST Owl

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     Don’t be like that.

     You should aspire to your artistic inclinations anyway and better yourself. The AI art thing, it’s a boogeyman and an excuse for people to cop out on trying harder. You have this.

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     MG Mars (martianm00n@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:13 JST MG Mars

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     @Owl @King_Noticer @Leaflord @Rayfield It's also a simple fact that the AI 'artist' doesn't actually create the images they put out. It's a bad comparison to make between the machine image and the proper illustration.
     
     Like criticizing "Starry Night" because Van Gogh didn't just take a photo with a camera.
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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:14 JST King_Noticer

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     @Owl @Leaflord @Rayfield Doesn’t help that people can just push a button and make better stuff than me now though lol
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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:15 JST King_Noticer

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     • Owl
     @Owl @Leaflord @Rayfield Yeah, you’re probably right
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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:16 JST King_Noticer

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     @Leaflord @Owl @Rayfield I’ll do my best (Mediocre)
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:16 JST Owl

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     What? You draw very well for someone who’s supposedly so bad at it. Listen, you’re just being hard on yourself because you notice all the parts where you struggle. To the outside and untrained eye, all I see are cute goblin girls. Don’t be too tough on yourself or else you’ll just cripple your self-esteem and ability to perform. You’ve got it.

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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:17 JST Leaf Lord

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     I believe in you, goblin layer
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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:18 JST King_Noticer

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     • Leaf Lord
     • Owl
     @Owl @Leaflord @Rayfield Mfw I’ve been drawing for years and I still have to do things to mask how shit I am at it :gura_pain:
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:19 JST Owl

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     Yeah, but I actually want to be good to where I don’t have to mask anything you know?

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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:20 JST Leaf Lord

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     I think, as with all such endeavors, it's a question of coming up with a stylized approach. There's a gap between stylized and very good that plunges into the abyss of trying hard and being shit at it. You can mask a lot of skill issues through proper application of style
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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:21 JST Leaf Lord

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     I've been toying with idea, but for the life of me cannot remember where I stashed my wacom
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:21 JST Owl

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     I’m in no rush. I need to develop a style that’s not just “yes I screwed with how to draw manga books when I was 11 and a budding wannabe artist” after all.

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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:22 JST Owl

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     I’d treat instances like they’re their own countries with their own customs. Wouldn’t be bad!

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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:23 JST Owl

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     I have a serious craving to actually produce things beyond videos and meme edits, so I want something I can hit the ground running and actually get a huge amount of mileage under my feet with it.

     I’d love, love, love to get into drawing things for Fedifriends (and people I hate). Maybe even a comic series or something, idk. Big dreams, but they require bigger ambitions and an even bigger work ethic. Time will tell, but I’m having a blast just drawing this candle to my right.

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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:23 JST Leaf Lord

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     Webcomic based on fedi
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     King_Noticer (king_noticer@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:24 JST King_Noticer

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     @Owl @Rayfield I’ve got one of those too! Or maybe a slightly older model... :akkothink:
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     Owl (owl@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 07:56:25 JST Owl

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     My new gaming rig is expected to come in and I'm having second guesses about it *but* it sounds like a very powerful rig, and with it to work on my creative endeavors I've bought this and am toying with it on my old rig:
     
     https://estore.wacom.com/en-us/wacom-cintiq-22-dtk2260k0a.html
     
     I can say with certainty, it's nice having a screen versus my old Wacon tablet that was just a pad (but it was damn diverse). I haven't drawn since I was 19, so this is a start back into the thing.
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:00:47 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Leaf Lord
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     @Leaflord @NEETzsche @Owl @MartianM00n @Rayfield it's good at making art that activates the animal response part of the brain but when you look closer there's dozens of small flaws that a real artist wouldn't have made so it takes me right out of the piece.
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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:00:48 JST Leaf Lord

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     So far the "visions" have been tits, memes, and massproduced landscapes for use as wallpapers by soulless office drones. I'm already seeing games with AI generated assets and they look like sterile shit.
     
     On the other hand, let cattle massproduce goyslop for other cattle to feed on I suppose.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:03:11 JST NEETzsche

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     You can actually control the style of the output, but you have to put it in as part of your prompt and you need to phrase it correctly. Most people who use AI art – including people who use it in products they ask for pay for – don’t manage to do that. You can also specify writing style when you’re using an LLM to write text for you. If you know what you want out of it and you know how to phrase the prompt to even GPT-4, the text it returns won’t be detected as AI-generated at all, either by humans or by the software designed to detect AI-generated text.

     Generative AI is the future and the only people seething about it are people who put all of their points into skill and came out with no vision. In five years we’re going to have amazing multimedia works of fiction produced by 13yos with great imaginations and no skill.

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     Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:07:11 JST Leaf Lord

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     My nigga I am part of the biomystical jihad. I stand against such things
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:07:11 JST NEETzsche

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     If you think that what makes us special is the ability to flick a paint brush a certain way or phrase prose in a certain style, you’re a tech hylic. 👹

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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:08:56 JST NEETzsche

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     • Leaf Lord
     • MG Mars
     • Owl

     There’s going to be an entire industry around wrangling these generative AIs. Also, “prompt engineering” sounds like a bullshit title until you realize you can write scripts that generate prompts based on a complex set of rules.

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     FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:08:57 JST FourOh-LLC

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     Same thing with all AI.
     
     Back around the first industrial age people were trashing steam equipment, in fear that the machine going to destroy their already meager wages.
     
     Look what happened, and explosion of capacity which demanded even more workers for higher - not lower wages.
     
     I work in an engineering office, and there is one guy, a really good engineer, who keep talking about AI destroying Human Civilization.
     
     I keep drawing the parallel I just explained - no effect. He keeps insisting.
     
     The best you can do is not be him!
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     MG Mars (martianm00n@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:09:03 JST MG Mars

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     @FourOh-LLC @NEETzsche @Leaflord @Owl @Rayfield Nobody stopped painting landscapes just because cameras exist.
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     NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:16:24 JST NEETzsche

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     The reason they’re so invested in “safety” measures for these AIs to the tune of not letting you produce big titted anime girls or “problematic” texts is because if they don’t have top-down control of how they’re used, it’s over for their media monopoly that they rely so heavily on to control populations. Right now people feel obligated to stay on their Xbox Live tranny plantation because they don’t have the budgets to make their own shit. But that will change when vision, not skill, is the filter. The Idea Guy (tm) will go from the least to most useful colleague when most of the drudgery involved in actually making this media is automated away.

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     FourOh-LLC (fouroh-llc@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Oct-2023 08:16:26 JST FourOh-LLC

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     My best hope from the AI is to stop all these liars and fakers.
     
     The AI cannot contradict itself. So the "men can get pregnant" crowd is hopefully facing extinction, as the Medical AI going to vehemently disagree with the Historical AI.