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    Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 10:39:07 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
    I think a lot about healthcare in the US and how it functions and it is so bad.

    The only way to "fix it" is to tear it down...but...you can't because so many people will die...

    I think state run health care in the US is the only option which mitigates losses, but for the love of god, just read your cities budget sometime if you live in a liberal city. Over 50% of THE ENTIRE TAX BASE goes to health care companies.
    In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 10:39:07 JST from clew.lol permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 10:39:06 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      One simple fix: Make all drugs otc, but regulate resale license to stop hoarding, and make labs available without orders. This will force doctors to compete for clients for most common, life long diseases, e.g. diabetes, high blood pressure, etc.

      This would dramatically drop the cost of care for most people, make many emergency room and doctors visits unnecessary, and otherwise free up medical resources.

      I find it strange that a particular order has such a monopoly on such an existential component of being. Imagine if we required a lawyer to approve contracts before you were allowed to enter into them, and you had to buy law insurance. We'd find that abhorrent. Why we don't feel the same way about medicine is evidence of a longterm grooming on par with the propoganda that has caused people to believe in the holocaust.
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 11:39:32 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • BroDrillard
      "People will harm themselves" is always the mantra. The same argument could be made for legal decisions. I could tell you stories. But no one says it in that context. I don't see how medical decisions are any different. Imagine farming out your right to self-determination to some fuck twat controlled by national associations and state administrations under the mantra of "other people will themselves." SMFH.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 11:39:32 JST permalink
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 11:39:33 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      • BroDrillard
      Also the fact the feedback is directly correlated to more drug addicts lol.

      More drug addicts, higher profits.

      I thought about becoming a Pharma sales rep but for Christs sake I just can't. It's too dirty.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 11:39:33 JST permalink
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      BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 11:39:34 JST BroDrillard BroDrillard
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      The problem with making all drugs OTC is that people can make really bad healthcare decisions, see all the covidiots. They’d eat all those OTC drugs even if they don’t need it, and take the wrong amount when they do. Remember how niggers are incapable of consistently taking antibiotics for a week. In addition certain drugs can’t be taken together with certain other drugs. You need some system to rein in the stupidest people and decisions because the consequences are literally deadly.

      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 11:39:34 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:46:24 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • BroDrillard
      Most prescription medications aren't drugs that people abuse. Plus, just like I would advise anyone with a legal problem to consult a lawyer, I also believe that people should consult doctors when needed, but a lot of people have diseases for life and are familiar with their own care. Short of having to get a prescription or labs, the need for a doctor for that class of people is de minimis. They are typically familiar with their medications and labs, so seeing a doctor is literally an unnecessary cost. I'd even argue that it's an administrative tax since the requirement is one created by state law pursuant to its police powers.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:46:24 JST permalink
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:46:25 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      • BroDrillard
      I know, it's so bad...but it makes so much money...
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:46:25 JST permalink
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      Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:49:06 JST Mr. Bacon Mr. Bacon
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      • BroDrillard
      That's an odd take.
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:53:59 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • BroDrillard
      Here's another odd take: Doctors are state actors exercising either legislative or judicial power because they can legalize the possession and use of substances for specific people via their own judgments. Thus, they act like court by determining facts about their patients and enjoining their prosecution for possession and use via prescription or they act as a legislature if the prescription is viewed as a bill authorizing the possession and use.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:53:59 JST permalink
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      JeffreyNull (pereavaitraison@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:55:49 JST JeffreyNull JeffreyNull
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      • BroDrillard
      This is actually not so odd at all; there's a reason the ancients (Plato especially) used medicine as a way of talking about politics and morals.
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:56:30 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • JeffreyNull
      • BroDrillard
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmakon_(philosophy)
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:56:30 JST permalink

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        Pharmakon (philosophy)
        In critical theory, Pharmakon is a concept introduced by Jacques Derrida. It is derived from the Greek source term φάρμακον (phármakon), a word that can mean either remedy, poison, or scapegoat.In his book "Plato's Pharmacy", Derrida explores the notion that writing is a pharmakon in a composite sense of these meanings as "a means of producing something". Derrida uses pharmakon to highlight the connection between its traditional meanings and the philosophical notion of indeterminacy. "[T]ranslational or philosophical efforts to favor or purge a particular signification of pharmakon [and to identify it as either "cure" or "poison"] actually do interpretive violence to what would otherwise remain undecidable." Whereas a straightforward view on Plato's treatment of writing (in Phaedrus) suggests that writing is to be rejected as strictly poisonous to the ability to think for oneself in dialogue with others (i.e. to anamnesis). Bernard Stiegler argues that "the hypomnesic appears as that which constitutes the condition of the anamnesic...
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:57:53 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • BroDrillard
      I've heard much of South America is like this too, but with the pharmacist also playing a role of a quasi-doctor that will make recommendations based on symptoms.
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      JeffreyNull (pereavaitraison@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:57:54 JST JeffreyNull JeffreyNull
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      • BroDrillard
      In SE Asia you can walk into a pharmacy and just get many drugs there yourself that require a prescription here.

      There are some ways in which they are much freer than we are.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 12:57:54 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 13:06:07 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • Deplorable Degenerate
      Imagine your daughter has a UTI. It's not her first. She was hoping it would cure itself, but it's Saturday at 3am and she has a fever of 103. Should you have to pay $5000 for the emergency room visit or should the law allow you to get antibiotics at a pharmacy for $20? 🤔
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 13:06:07 JST permalink
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      Deplorable Degenerate (deplorable_degenerate@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 13:06:08 JST Deplorable Degenerate Deplorable Degenerate
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      • JeffreyNull
      • BroDrillard
      Sounds both great and terrible. But at least this way you can get whatever causes the least amount of awful side effects.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 13:06:08 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:05:48 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • JeffreyNull
      • Ricotta :windmilloffriendship:
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      • Deplorable Degenerate
      You will eat the horse paste and you will be healthy.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:05:48 JST permalink
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      Deplorable Degenerate (deplorable_degenerate@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:05:49 JST Deplorable Degenerate Deplorable Degenerate
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      • JeffreyNull
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      • BroDrillard
      Joe Rogan energy here.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:05:49 JST permalink
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      Ricotta :windmilloffriendship: (ricotta@yggdrasil.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:05:50 JST Ricotta :windmilloffriendship: Ricotta :windmilloffriendship:
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      • JeffreyNull
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      • Deplorable Degenerate
      @Humpleupagus @Tony @Deplorable_Degenerate @BroDrillard @PereAvaitRaison You can buy antibiotics without a prescription at the pet store that are the same shit you'd get at the pharmacy.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:05:50 JST permalink
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      BroDrillard (brodrillard@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:28:22 JST BroDrillard BroDrillard
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      • JeffreyNull
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      • Deplorable Degenerate
      I took ivermectin when I had covid. Everything worked out fine.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:28:22 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:28:22 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • JeffreyNull
      • Ricotta :windmilloffriendship:
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      • Deplorable Degenerate
      I take it every time I feel like I have a cold coming on. I haven't been sick since I started using it.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:28:22 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:31:35 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • JeffreyNull
      • Ricotta :windmilloffriendship:
      • Hoss Delgado
      • BroDrillard
      • Deplorable Degenerate
      Pro Tip: Cocaine helps the fatigue.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:31:35 JST permalink
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:31:36 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      • JeffreyNull
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      • BroDrillard
      • Deplorable Degenerate
      Whenever I feel like I have a cold coming on I just pop a hydrocodone and feel better than ever only a couple minutes later.
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 14:31:36 JST permalink
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      ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 20:54:00 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? ?? Humpleupagus ??
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      • smokescreen
      • BroDrillard
      Make Mexico Spain Again!
      In conversation Friday, 22-Sep-2023 20:54:00 JST permalink
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      smokescreen (smokescreen@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 20:54:01 JST smokescreen smokescreen
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      • JeffreyNull
      • BroDrillard
      Mexico is this way
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