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John Rando (john_rando@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:54:33 JST John Rando
- anime graf mays ?️?
Well well well, who just followed me here:
You see this faggot follow you, block that bitch. Its a datamining operation run by the usual suspects.
@graf I’m including you on this since I think you should know about this.
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 07:54:32 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 12:17:23 JST Sexy Moon
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  @anornymorse @john_rando @graf I blocked the first ip so they must be coming on other ones.
  
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  Anornymorse (anornymorse@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 12:17:24 JST Anornymorse
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  @john_rando @graf Just followed me.
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 12:23:03 JST Sexy Moon
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  @graf @john_rando @anornymorse I just added a block by user agent.
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 12:23:04 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @Moon @anornymorse @john_rando v6?
  
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  Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 12:32:07 JST Sexy Moon
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  @Daikonradish @graf @john_rando @anornymorse i'll be adding it to reject list tomorrow
  
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  Daikonradish (daikonradish@varishangout.net)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 12:32:08 JST Daikonradish
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  @Moon @graf @john_rando @anornymorse I'm glad that any suspicions I had were true. I did not get blocked yet, and muted the domain for good measure.
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:44:40 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @Moon @admin @admin @eisai @graf @john_rando @parker @sjw @verita84 Incidentally, although they claim in that screenshot to be "open source", their gitlab repo has two repositories (one of which contains only a README and the other of which is the source for a client for their API) and three sub-projects (which have zero public repositories).
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:44:41 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @graf @Moon @admin @john_rando @parker @sjw @verita84 Looks like, from the page, that they just do keyword search for gamer words; they are probably finding fedi accounts by the same means. The @admin account is only following one account on FSE: @eisai.
  
  Looks like it's very naive and their search barely works. Everything on the site that *does* work is off the shelf. I'd give it 5:1 that this is a project of people laundering grant money by delivering some barely passable work and paying salaries to friends, but it looks like they're just doing an Open Collective scam: https://opencollective.com/smat/expenses . Scroll down far enough on their front page and you see a row of logos that are not actually links, just images with event handlers attached. (It is not odd for scummy sites to clickwrap links, but it is a little odd to completely forego the links and rely entirely on JavaScript.) The last of those non-links goes to https://ddosecrets.com/wiki/Distributed_Denial_of_Secrets , the organization that came out of nowhere to displace WikiLeaks, with a key difference: whereas Wikileaks never posted anything that embarrassed the Kremlin, DDoSecrets never posts anything that embarrasses the CIA. (I'm certain that this is purely coincidental. :terrylol:)
  
  At any rate, to make a long story short, if DDoSecrets is sending these guys money (and there also appears to be overlap between people employed by SMAT and people employed by DDoSecrets: https://opencollective.com/smat/expenses/136086 ), that's enough for me.
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2023 20:44:42 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @graf @john_rando @sjw @Moon @parker @verita84 @admin I am excited for my harmful misinformation to be archived forever by a terrible journo.
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 01:00:02 JST
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  @laurel @sjw @admin @eisai @p @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @Moon I guess one way to go is to spam their own inbox with signed AP requests containing nothing but randomly arranged gamer words in message. Maybe even adapt an activitypub-troll script to generate long threads with the same contents.
  
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  laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 01:00:03 JST laurel
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  >they claim in that screenshot to be "open source"
  Their setup is an elasticsearch database that they populate using undisclosed methods.
  Their "backend" (smat-be) is a wrapper that just forwards requests to their elasticsearch instance. You're supposed to contact them so they provide you with connection details in the form of an .env file that you then plug into the python wrapper "backend".
  Then they have a frontend that runs in vue which is a full blown web app and does most of the analysis.
  For instance the social graph to visualize connections is done client side in javascript.
  They get around the GPL by segmenting the data along with the collection process from the webapp part.
  
  I think that it would cause immense butthurt if someone would use their code on a database populated scraped from shitty fedi outboxes. But it's too much work for just a little trolling.
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:48 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @verita84 @sjw @admin @p @parker @john_rando @mint @Moon like /32 and /24 is to ipv4, /64 is an entire subnet to ipv6 comprising of 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 ipv6 addresses
  
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  Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed: (sjw@bae.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:48 JST Your New Marijuana Injecting Waifu :weed:
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  @graf @admin @p @parker @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon it's the standard size assigned to individual devices
  
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  verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:49 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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  Can you explain what a /64 is? I understand /32 and /24
  
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  Parker Banks (parker@pl.psion.co)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:50 JST Parker Banks
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  Yeah I don't see how blocking an entire service provider is much different from Oliphant blocking every instance that uses soapbox.
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:50 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @parker @sjw @admin @p @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon blocking hetzner ipv6 is a security concern for us because they every regularly use entire /64s to attempt to DDoS us. preventing a service from functioning is a whole lot different than preventing federation because you don't like the dude who wrote the software and trying to equate it to that just makes you look foolish. I'm not advocating for the blocking of them but I am absolutely going to block hetzner ipv6 for our security.
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:51 JST
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @Moon They've got IPv6 tho (2a01:4f9:3051:52a7::2, probably safe to block the whole /48). I admit it's a bit hilarious how people who laugh about mastodongers spazzing out about indexing now spaz out about an indexer that now targets them, but I still adjusted my nginx config just to signalize they'd have to try harder than that if anything.
  
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  verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android: (verita84@poster.place)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:52 JST verita84 :Debian_logo: :firefox: :bing: :android:
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  looks like nginx can do it easiest
  
  simply add :
  deny 45.43.23.21;
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 03:03:52 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @verita84 @graf @Moon @admin @john_rando @parker @sjw Better to do it with iptables I think but all the traffic we got from them is 65.109.84.183.
  
  (Hetzner. Germans again. Hilarious.)
  
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  autism :verified: (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:19 JST autism :verified:
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  @Moon @Zerglingman @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @mischievoustomato @p @parker @sjw @verita84 note: lokinet was designed to do flow label based isolation and use nat64 dns64 but i put in ipv4 to make it fucking work for a demo. biggest tech debt in that code by a fucking longshot
  
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  @Zerglingman @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @mischievoustomato @p @parker @sjw @verita84 like literally why ipv6 flow labels got made is to tackle such cases https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1809
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  Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:22 JST Machismo
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  @p @verita84 @sjw @parker @mint @john_rando @graf @admin @Moon @mischievoustomato Pick a different address for every incoming connection 🕶
  
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  @Zerglingman @sjw @admin @p @mischievoustomato @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon ipv6 flow labels
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:23 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @mischievoustomato @graf @Moon @admin @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 The idea is that you have more than you need even if you randomly pick a different address for every outgoing connection (which is part of IPv6). That part is kind of cool but also excessive.
  
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  Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@marsey.moe)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:24 JST Johnny Peligro
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  @graf @sjw @admin @p @parker @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon i don't know how many ipv6 addresses I'd even need. certainly not billions
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:25 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @mischievoustomato @sjw @admin @p @parker @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon yeah, now think about VPS providers that charge a dollar a month providing a VPS 1 IPv4 address and 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 ipv6 addresses and then you begin to understand why that's a security concern
  
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  @graf @sjw @admin @p @parker @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon that's quite a bit
  
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  anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:46 JST anime graf mays ?️?
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon you know Pete. if we yoinked back /8s given to apple, ford, prudential Insurance and stopped issuing anything larger than /28 without justification, this wouldn't even be an issue. NAT solves this for anything that doesn't absolutely require public facing infrastructure. why does ford need 92 IPs per employee?
  
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  @p @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon what if IPv6 looked like this 101.196.275.22.5 and IPv4 was just placed on the 0.0.0.0.0/8 block to make it backwards compatible?
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:05:47 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @sjw @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @verita84 That would be fine, or even if it's hex it would be fine, although that'd only be 40 bits and 40 bits is probably not enough to stop worrying.
  
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  @eisai @Moon @admin @admin @graf @john_rando @laurel @parker @r000t @sjw @verita84 It's so over.
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  @r000t @sjw @admin @admin @eisai @laurel @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @Moon It's over.
  
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  @p @r000t @Moon @admin @admin @graf @john_rando @laurel @parker @sjw @verita84 N-no, please?
  
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  BSD/r000t (r000t@ligma.pro)'s status on Monday, 28-Aug-2023 04:11:20 JST BSD/r000t
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  @p I am currently under contractual obligation to do no trolling at all outside Summoner's Rift.
  @sjw @admin@detroitriotcity.com @admin@fediverse.smat-app.com @eisai @laurel @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @Moon
  
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  > Their setup is an elasticsearch database that they populate using undisclosed methods.
  
  I couldn't find this by looking at their gitlab page. How'd you get this?
  
  > I think that it would cause immense butthurt if someone would use their code on a database populated scraped from shitty fedi outboxes.
  
  cc @r000t :itscallwedoalittletrolling:
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @jeff @cjd @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon
  >Go install Plan 9
  I'm on it.
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:58:57 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @jeff @Moon @admin @cjd @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 The standard reads "The standard is needless and stupid. Go install Plan 9." There you go, done.
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @cjd @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon write a better standard c:
  
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  > legacy software that is unchanging should not be able to talk to the internet. full fucking stop.
  
  bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
  
  POSIX should have died twenty years ago and didn't. "Should" means nothing.
  
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  @cjd @jeff @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon Reasonable, but I think it's easiest at the router level so that even things that make software changes impossible still function.
  
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  autism :verified: (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:00 JST autism :verified:
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  @p @sjw @admin @cjd @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon legacy software that is unchanging should not be able to talk to the internet. full fucking stop.
  
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  > i think given the right amount of technical rigor ipv6 is worth it,
  
  The deal is that there's nothing really compelling. It doesn't do anything that I want to do except provide more addresses, and it fucks that up with way too many addresses. What's the payoff for the effort? The internet isn't going to stop being a complete mess, and I don't think IPv6 meaningfully changes anything for anyone besides people that hack routers and BGP advertisements, aside from obliging people to cope with a horrible notation. (And one that makes previously easy things into things that most people cannot do. I can remember 32 bits for long enough to look at it in one place and type it in another. How many people can do this with 128 bits?)
  
  > software broken by ipv6 is a software bug,
  
  I don't think anything is broken by IPv6, unless you mean software that does not support IPv6.
  
  > someone needs to make an LD_PRELOAD hack to auto promote v4 to the v6 translation layer.
  
  This is not only a bad idea, it's the worst way to do it. You do it with the LAN's router. Good luck LD_PRELOAD'ing firmware on a machine that's welded shut. Sure, they should have gone with an open solution, but they didn't, and no amount of "but the checksum calculations!" is going to be worth shutting down operations.
  
  The sheer amount of unpatchable, deployed hardware that does not understand IPv6 is more massive than all of the industrial systems that still use DOS, which is also never going away. You can say it's a bug, but a thing that was working as designed and that still works as designed is not buggy. In this case, you don't like the spec it was designed for. That's fine, but trying to force the new protocol, even if it were a better protocol, never works.
  
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  cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:02 JST cjd
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  Application support for IPv6 is totally unnecessary. All we need is a local DNS resolver which, when you lookup an A record, it resolves whatever kind of address is in use on the network you're on, allocates an IP from the 127/8 range, and installs a NAT. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
  
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  autism :verified: (jeff@misinformation.wikileaks2.org)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:03 JST autism :verified:
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon i get you prefer ipv4, i think given the right amount of technical rigor ipv6 is worth it, banning ip fragmentation, mandating link scope multicast (hopeful for site and org scope eventually) and consolidating how you compute l3 and l4 checksums make it worth it. software broken by ipv6 is a software bug, imo someone needs to make an LD_PRELOAD hack to auto promote v4 to the v6 translation layer. the required pointershit workarounds would fuckin suck tho
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:04 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @jeff @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 It is a lot of work to make a new city just so that I could use IPv6, which I don't want to use to begin with.
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:05 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @jeff @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 "Just move to a new city and repeat the process until you end up in one where an ISP doesn't fuck this up."
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon well yea. dont like it? just make your own... c:
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon having a fuckup isp is a dimension of this skill issue smh
  
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  @jeff @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 No, they just enable that by default and then your ISP fucks it up.
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon indeed, not having ipv6 tends to be more of a skill issue tbh
  
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  @jeff @mint @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @parker @sjw @verita84 It doesn't take that much skill to disable IPv6.
  
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  @mint @sjw @admin @p @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @Moon not having v6 is a skill issue tbh
  
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  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:11 JST
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  @jeff @sjw @admin @p @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @Moon So does everyone who isn't OVH with its single /128 per server.
  
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  pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Aug-2023 01:59:12 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
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  @jeff @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 Since IPv6 is still farther away than cold fusion, there is not yet any such thing as hindsight when it comes to IPv6.
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon i have ipv6
  
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  @p @sjw @admin @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon i think such assertions are highsight
  
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  @jeff @sjw @Moon @admin @graf @john_rando @mint @parker @verita84 Still better than IPv6.
  
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  @sjw @admin @p @parker @graf @john_rando @verita84 @mint @Moon that has multiple dimensions of syntactical ambiguity
  
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  @romin @Moon @admin @cjd @graf @jeff @john_rando @mint @parker @sjw @verita84 The best part is you only have to do that once, since unlike in Linux, PXE-booting the other machines requires about five minutes of setup.
  
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